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to envy/hate people on benefits to be as well off if not better than us

999 replies

chocaddict · 08/01/2012 16:08

I know that this post may have some mixed reviews and may even get me slated but I can,t help it.
Someone I know although she is a genuine case her and her husband have as much as me and dh coming in and with a brand new car thrown in for good measure.
I can only dream of a new car and I work my tripe off 5 days a week as well as dh whilst some people can sit at home and get the same income coming in it seems really unfair.

OP posts:
lisad123 · 09/01/2012 13:45

All I can say is I have to send 6 different reports with dd claim and they still wrote to her doctors!!

Dillydaydreaming · 09/01/2012 13:45

Oh this is still going - I wonder if MN would have allowed it to stand had the OP substituted word Black/Muslim/Gay/Chinese/Indian/White etc etc for "people on benefits"?

Still as long as it's just the disabled being slated who cares eh Hmm

Dillydaydreaming · 09/01/2012 13:46

...and is the OP still around or has she fucked off back to her cosy and blinkered little existence?

TheRealTillyMinto · 09/01/2012 13:59

well isnt that what you wanted? the OP to f off & she has!

Peachy · 09/01/2012 14:04

Nyone bored of this get on twitter and look for #spartacusreport

Peachy · 09/01/2012 14:20

here it is

OpinionatedMum · 09/01/2012 14:30

The twitter response to #spartacusreport is truly inspiring and has restored my faith in humanity after this vile thread.

Celebs and MPs retweeting, hopefully this will mushroom and shame this vile government.

Peachy · 09/01/2012 14:41

Although the BBC and Sky News are managing to avoid the whole matter!

TheRealTillyMinto · 09/01/2012 15:02

BBC Ipsos-Mori poll: "92% agree that we must have a benefits system that provides a safety net for everyone who needs it."

Sevenfold · 09/01/2012 15:06

Dillydaydreaming it would have been deleted, not used as education because one poster wanted it to stay

yellowraincoat · 09/01/2012 15:12

I used to have so much fun when I was on benefits, not only did I get my rent paid, I also got £50 a week to spend on WHATEVER I wanted.

Let me tell you, those were crazy times. Sometimes I could even afford to have the heating on.

Sevenfold · 09/01/2012 15:27

did you get a goat though? or a cap?

wubblybubbly · 09/01/2012 15:58

Thank you for the link Peachy, would be nice if the media gave this just a fraction of the coverage they give to fraudsters.

TheRealTillyMinto · 09/01/2012 16:02

more results from the Ipsos Mori poll:

"92% agreed that we must have a benefits system that provides a safety net for everyone who needs it. Only 4% disagreed.

However, many doubt whether the UK benefits system works effectively.

63% think it does not (23% think it does).
72% say that politicians should do more to cut the benefits bill (15% think they should not).
76% say that some groups of people should have their benefits cut (9% are against this idea).
Respondents were asked about specific benefits.

84% want to see stricter testing for incapacity benefits (10% do not).
78% think job seekers should lose some of their benefits if they refuse work they are capable of doing (16% do not).
62% want to see benefits capped for people who have 'too many children' (27% do not).
57% thought those on housing benefit who live in expensive areas should be forced to move (29% do not).
Base: 1,003 British adults aged 18+: 16-18 September 2011.

Part of the sample was asked which one, if any, of the following groups should be the highest priority to have their benefits cut ? respondents say:

Immigrants ? 35%
People claiming over £400 a week in housing benefit ? 27%
The long-term unemployed ? 25%
People on incapacity benefits ? 4%
Lone parents ? 2%
Other ? 1%
None ? 3%
Don't know ? 4%
Base 768 British adults aged 18+ who agree: "that there are some groups of people who claim benefits who should have their benefits cut." 16-18 September 2011.

Poll conducted by telephone for the BBC by Ipsos MORI ? 16-18 September 2011. Data have been weighted to the known profile of the population."

Sevenfold · 09/01/2012 16:03

Sorry I always think those polls mean nothing.
it is not like everyone in the country was asked, just some random people

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 09/01/2012 16:05

ummm yes random = a sample group of the population

wubblybubbly · 09/01/2012 16:17

Interestingly enough, DLA doesn't seem to have been mentioned in that poll.

And I would have the question the accuracy of the questions when they are referring to 'Incapacity Benefit' since that benefit has been closed to new claimants and replaced by ESA for some time now.

Sevenfold · 09/01/2012 16:18

no mention of goats of caps though

molepom · 09/01/2012 16:19

Can goats wear caps?

Sevenfold · 09/01/2012 16:20

seriously I think if people want to do away with DLA they need to make things like buses more accessible, so why don't thay take all the seats out bar about 5, for WC's and ban prams for nt kids on them

Sevenfold · 09/01/2012 16:20

and yes goats can wear caps, it would be discrimination not to let them

Sevenfold · 09/01/2012 16:21

but were goats asked their views in this poll

Peachy · 09/01/2012 16:22

Wubbly none of the news channels are reporting it and questi0ons are being asked as to why.

Inetrestingly tehre is something out simultaneoulsy that says charities afraid to stand against cuts due to slashes in funding.

One and one, as they say, make two!

Sevenfold read the poll I linked to- Government cover up on the reforms, is on my FB page as well. Incredible stuff! Yet the Government wanted £290 to receive it, and it had to be fundraised for by disabled people.

TheRealTillyMinto · 09/01/2012 16:23

Poll conducted by telephone for the BBC by Ipsos MORI ? 16-18 September 2011

so MNers know more about polling, than one of the largest polling companies?

molepom · 09/01/2012 16:24

Did they eat the poll? Therefore spoiling their paper, rendering their opinon invalid.

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