So all these pedants who correct posters grammar

[MamaMaiasaura]

Seen posters correcting grammar on here, do they do so in RL situations?

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Cod, is that you?

scuzzy

BRILLIANT!!!

Bolody birlilnat

I correct people I know well. I only correct colleagues privately, never in front of anyone else, and only if they're making mistakes in front of clients. My boss finds it intensely annoying, but has now admitted defeat and gets me to proof-read all his letters

Have they deleted my Alot?

I can't see it now

Rollocks Smarmy. I am a pedant of the highest order, to the point that my husband will take pictures of incorrect signs etc and email them to me during the day cause he know if winds me up. But I would never correct someone else in an unsolicited/non-professional scenario either online or in real life because it is bloody rude and patronising...and I am neither. (I hope.)

Ask yourselves this, would you correct your boss in an unrelated conversation? If you wouldn't, I would surmise that is because you know it is rude and that is why you only do it to people you feel superior to.

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I almost ring mine though there spool chucker.

yea jus i fink peepul cud of bin nisser 2 me

Its pathetic and small minded, English is not everybodys first language either.

I hate when people correct grammar and spelling, if they were that intelligent they would be able to understand any post regardless of grammatical errors etc.,

Generally those who do it have fuck all else to contribute to a thread.

NN is like I am and most of us are.

The bottom line is that if you do not enable your children to have good spoken and written English they will be seriously disadvantaged and it is going to be harder for them to acquire it if yours is poor.

There are many mumsnet posters who vet people for jobs every week. I am sent lots of CVs. The ones with poor English go in the bin in the current market.

Absolutely. Any CV that came over my desk with errors in went to the bottom of the pile or in the bin...I didn't want an marketing exec who either couldn't spell or wasn't aware of the importance of checking their work!

When dd is of an age we will reinforce the importance of accuracy, both verbally and on 'paper', but that is because her education is our responsibility. The same can't be said for strangers online or in real life.

It is an important issue to consider if you're not from the uK too. Some of my chidren's friend work 5x as hard at school but even so do not do as well because they haven't heard correct English grammar at home and don't speak grammatically correctly either. This has an impact on GCSE and A results and university exams and also (the stage my oldest 3 are at now) post university job applications. A lot of employers to save time do a very first initial interiew by telephone so they can hear how you speak,.

PS I never ever in real life except with my children correct anyone unless I've been sent work to check , as otherwise it would be rude.

1 minute ago one child said "Me and S are going swimming" and I said "S and I" and he said he'd just corrected himself which I think he did in the 2 second exchange of a few words. Of course it is different at the toddler stage when you don't want to put children off saying anything - you don't want to be correcting every last thing.

A lot of adults write "it's" when they mean "its" - its dog they write as "it's dog". I corrected that last week and felt bad about it as I was really saying to the other person you are badly educated and got it wrong but hopefully I did it in a subtle way and it was okay. I was being paid to get the thing right so I could hardly leave it. Nor did I give him a lesson in "it's" always means "it is" -it is never possessive. its dog would always mean "it is dog"

The dyslexia excuse doesn't ring true, btw, all the dyslexics I know work quite hard at getting written communication right. I bet people with dyslexia are more likely to own and use dictionaries than the general population...

Actually dictionaries are of little or no use to a dyslexic. If you have not got the first clue how to spell a word a dictionary will NOT help!

Reliance on 'spell check' is more likely even with all the problems associated with 'spell check'.

Yes if you are very dylexic a dictionary doesn't work for some words but spell check helps. My oldest is in a job where writing must be perfect and she is mildly dyslexic. She checks everything. Some people will even employ someone to check their work in that sort of situation.

Of course if you 're in a job where it doesn't matter at all - such a cleaning toilets etc then yes don't fuss about it. You don't need good spelling to lead a good life. It is just that good spoken and written English is really important in many jobs and when plenty of graduates cannot even get jobs in bars these days you can hugely improve your chances by having a good CV. One of my children recently was told it was the first CV received that week without spelling errors.

Completely missed your point Xenia.

My husband has dyslexia. He has 2 degrees in mathematics. He is a software engineer and incredibly intelligent. His spelling and handwriting are shit. He wouldn't consult a dictionary to post on an Internet forum. What an absurd and fucking stupid idea.

I think there's a bit of a huge difference between a job application and posting on an internet forum.

Of course if your spelling and grammar are a bit rubbish you should get someone to check your CV. You're hardly going to ask someone to check every time you post on a forum though, are you?

I don't think anyone's saying that we should just forget grammar n typ lik dis yeah but persistently correcting grammar and spelling just makes you a bit of an arse really.

Xenia bilingual children don't have to work X 5 times harder on exams and it is not an 'issue' having parents who speak another language, it is a huge benefit.

What you are saying about job aplications it is very true for first generation immigrants (it applies to me, i have to double check any work related documents and i have to work harder) but it doesn't apply to their children. If anything, they find school work and exams easier because they have great understanding of how language works. There is a stage -between 2 and 5 yo - where it seems like the child is behind but once you are past that stage then the benefits are clear.

I meant they do in practice work 5x harder than mine (and only because mine are pretty idle) and yet are let down by their accent, grammar and spelling and lack of general knowledge. Of course I am not generalising about all children of immigrants at all but the ones my children over 27 years have gone to school with in general have had worse spoken and written English because of how words are used at home.
I certainly agree that knowing two languages is a massive benefit and plenty of children learn very good English. Indeed I learned most of my grammar from German A level and French GCSE, not English lessons at school (and from how we spoke at home etc).

General knowledge i would say they have more. After all they travel since birth, they watch the news on different foreign channels, follow international current affairs, are familiar with other cultures/religions.
I agree with your second paragraph.

P.S.Can i say (because i'm going ofline now) Merry Christmas to you and to everyone on the thread)

I have found that by the time people are attacking on grammar or spelling or making ad hominems it's fairly pointless carrying on talking to them.

I very rarely on line point out grammar or spelling errors. I do feel I learn more every year on spelling and I hope most of us are life long learners.

I think it can be very ueful for people who were not taught properly atschool or home to learn things such as the fact the words discreet and discrete mean something completely different and it's great if people get the chance to learn where they are going wrong on line. I love learning more and I am often wrong about things and don't mind people saying so.