AIBU to think that whatever anyone says about schools admissions should be treated with a pinch of salt unless we know about their own personal choices for their own children

[florist]

just that

I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you mean?

Anything ANYONE on the internet says about ANYTHING should be taken with a pinch of salt because they are random people on the internet.

That do?

very true Trills

Trills I fear you may be right. Or can you believe that

What I meant by OP is that can we really treat someone who is opposed to grammar, faith, comprehensive etc schools seriously unless they declare their own choices for their DC. That is can someone opposed to say Grammar schools with a thick kid be taken seriously. Or someone who can,t get into a faith school but then want them abolished be really be given the time of day

You can be opposed to something in principle even if you are unable to use it.

I could be opposed to circumcision even though I don't have a penis.

I could think that hair straighteners were the work of the devil even if I were bald.

Someone with a fish allergy could think that sushi is disgusting and say that they wouldn't eat it even if they were not allergic.

You mean that you don't believe that someone dislikes something until you have seen them be offered it and refuse? I think that's silly. I think that people are perfectly capable of having opinions on things that they have never experienced.

What Trills said

Saved me typing...thanks

Trills not have a particular organ is hardly relevant where I do have a possible choice re a particular type of school but fail to be able to exercise that choice based on objective difference.
I just tire of what I see on MN - I am against what I can't have and think you should have what I have in terms of schools.

I am fundamentally opposed to the 11+. but we live in an 11+ area and my dd is at a grammar school. Are you saying that I should give up my opposition to selection at 11 because my children are in the system?

seeker - I am saying that to understand the seriousness of your opposition to GS we need to understand if your DC goes to a GS. The transparency of your posting suggests to me that your opposition to grammar schools can be treated with a pinch of salt given that you send your child to one. I am happy for you to continue to oppose GS but I now simply don't believe you have credibility - or to put it another way you are fooling yourself if your in principle oppostion to this type of school doesn't extend to your practice.

I can genuinely tell you that I don't give a toss how anyone chooses to educate their children.

I'm happy with my choices.

Having said that, it doesn't mean I'm not entitled to an opinion...or that no-one else is either.

We all feel how we feel.

I live on the doorstep of an outstanding Catholic school which people are fighting to get their kids into. I won't be sending DD as this would mean getting her baptised and we are not Catholic.

I am against all faith schools.

Do I win £5?

What exactly could seeker do to become 'credible'?

Move?

"I am against what I can't have and think you should have what I have in terms of schools."

How does that work with you questioning seeker's credibility? Am genuinely confused...

tethersj..but if you are not Catholic and not eligible for the school your ultimate decision is not relevant to this particular posting. I can't say you are particuarlary noble for not sending your DC to a school to which they would not get into.

Worryliberty of course you are entitled to whatever opinion you want just don't expect to be taken seriiously if while opposing say private schools you send your DC kids there, or if you oppose Grammar schools while tutoring up said DC

Florist- what do I have to do to be credible? Move? Home educate?

If seeker is so opposed to GS for whatever reason she is she could send her DC to other schools in the area.

Seeker credibility is surely forged when principle and practice are joined. You are oppossed to GS but you send you DC to one despite other options - secondary modern presumably being avaiable. Don't you think that is problematic in terms of the credibility of your argument against GS

I said I am opposed to selective education. All th schools in my area are part of the selective system. In order to opt out I would have to move.

Or to put it another would it be helpful to understand the school choices of those who choose private schools for their DC if those same people oppose selection - social such as postcode or academic eg grammar in the state system
Or is do as I say not as I do a credible position?

But I am opposing faith schools and not sending my child to one (we would get in if we baptised her)- that fits with your narrow credibility criteria as you have described them thusfar.

Is this a thread about a thread?

Secondary moderns are selective schools

Seeker but what does "oppostion" to selective education mean if you send your DC to one - if there are truly no secondary moderns available and no travel or moving options or educating at home. Should we understand oppostion to being a theoretical one or one that one dispays at dinner parties or on MN. What does it mean in your case? This is not an anti Seeker enquiry merely trying to understand

I am still not sure how you think I can gain credibility for my views in my position. Or do you think I can't, and hqve no right to an opinion?

tethers,.... ahh! Good one, so are non faith school actually faith schools? I think you demonstrate my OP was not too unreasonable