to think that thanking your own organic juice to give to your child at a party because you disapprove of the squash provided by the hosts us just rude?

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Obviously I don't think I'm being unreasonable and would really just like you all to join me in my disgruntled ire. But go on, give it a shot at putting the other side of the story. No behavioural issues involved, if anyone was wondering whether that might be a possible tactic.

This thread contains more shit than a field full of cows.

This thread is a really good reason NOT to have kids when other mothers get shitty about what you feed your kids. Seriously. Even if its rude, your fucking petty.

Cheered me up no end.

Seasons I was under the impression that fizzy drinks fill up child with gas rather than food and do something to bone density. NHS says bad for teeth here

"If you want to use squashes, flavoured milk and juice drinks, keep them for mealtimes, make sure they?re well diluted and always give them in a feeder cup rather than a bottle. Fizzy drinks are acidic and can damage tooth enamel so they shouldn't be given to babies and toddlers. Diet or reduced-sugar drinks aren't recommended for babies and toddlers. If you give your child concentrated drinks containing saccharin, dilute them well (at least 10 parts water to one part sweetened drink)."

I choose to be veggie so when I go to eat at other people's houses they cater especially for me.

this woman chooses not to give her child squash - she didn't demand you catered for this choice but supplied it herself so no I don't feel she was rude. And if she can provide an alternative why should her child feel singled out by drinking water and not a fruity drink?

maybe you feel she was judging your parenting choice by following her own? I know I get a similar reaction when I state I am veggie - people feel the need to justify the fact that they eat meat - personally I don't give 2 hoots what others eat and would never ask them to justify themselves - abstinence seems to come accross as quite a strong statement.....

Lots of things are bad for their teeth - all those Haribos - I bet the NHS aren't promoting them! My kids have full sugar Coke with their meals as an occasional treat but they never get squash, the well diluted version wouldn't impress them much - water tastes better.

I have now had a glass and a half of wine so have lost enough decorum inhibition to be able to tell you all that there was an Incident in relation to a Tunnocks Teacake.

More than that I cannot say.

I meant fizzy drinks contain carbon dioxide- carbon monixide would be a tad more toxic that a few spoonfuls of artificial sweeteners .

The Aspartame stuff is bollocks. Loving that that link says it causes death. How dramatic.

AHA! I served a jug of squash at DS1's 4th birthday party in August. This explains why they all blank me in the playground now

Serenitysutton, I can assure you it is anything but bollocks

The stuff is fucking evil.

It makes me have night terrors. so bad that i have woken up screaming, in the middle of a dorm, thinking some is sexually attacking me. To this day I still have doubts it was so real, but fortunately I had a number of good friends who were also there and assure me there nothing happened.

I've attacked my husband in my sleep too. Convinced he was a burglar trying to break into his parents house.

I never realised I had an issue with sugar free stuff as my parents never had it in the house due to my brother having so many allergies. DH sussed it in my mid twenties, purely by the fact that episodes only happened regularly at DH's house and that was the only time I touched the stuff.

It is absolutely terrifying. It doesn't affect everyone, but if you are sensitive to it, it does have a huge effect on you. Stuff should be banned, but sadly too much money, politics and lobbying behind it. Frightening.

HildaOgden
www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html
This Dr Janet Starr woman is a quack who got her PhD from an internet college/print shop called The Clayton College of Natural Health was a non-accredited American distance- learning natural health college - bleurgh. As someone who got their PhD from an actual university, this makes my lbood boil. Please don't ever try to back up an argument by using this shitology as a reference again. However, I digress...

Having said that had my rant about made-up qualifications, I agree completely that aspartame is not good for you and shouldn't be consumed in large quantities, and doubtless some people have allergies and sensitivities to it - therefore, they are perfectly entitled to avoid it fanatically. However, for the vast majority of people, a little very so often won't do them or their PFBs any harm, so get a grip people and learn some basic manners about the correct way to behave when you are a guest in other people's homes.

To conclude, YANBU OP.

I don't know how old the kids are, but I'd let my kids eat and drink what was served when they were a guest. If they were too little to drink chemically stuff, I would be therewith them anyways and could ask for water for them. One day of junk food for a healthy child isn't going to harm them.

Normally i'd think it was a bit precious but since being diagnosed with ibs it has changed my opinion somewhat. I cant tolerate caffeine (not supposed to have it anyway due to suffering with anxiety), carbonated drinks are a no, fruit juices are a no, anything containing aspartame, no. I'm pretty much limited to water or organic squash blardy expensive. Having seen what aspartame does to me i've probably been a bit over the top about my kids consuming it too. It is nasty stuff.

Bonkers thread, everything that's great about MN :o

Am loving the non hydrating water. How could nature have got it so wrong??

Am also loving the line I don't a single consultant gastroenterologist who... There really can't be many occasions when you can say that!

NATURE didn't get it wrong, Gwendoline, pure water doesn't really exist in natyre.

There are deaths in sport every year from drinking water instead of squash, or other sports drink.

I think a lot of the mythology about the health benefits and naturalness of pure water is down to spin by the bottled water . It really isn't particularly natural. Even whereit might exist in nature, this is transient. It isn't particularly hydrating, just makes you wee more to get it out of yur system.

sorry, that should read " the bottled water industry"

There's a wee bitty of a difference, don'tcha think Crabapple, between running a marathon & playing pin the tail on the donkey?

Loving this thread!

Obviously depends on the party, pin the tail on the donkey is not going to get the children all hot nd sweating, is it, vigourous soft play/ dancing, etcc is different

Crabapple- you're correct re distilled water which is literally pure H2O, but most bottled waters still have the mineral/salt content.

No-one sells distilled water as a drink. It's meant for irons/cars etc

Presumably the kids were also eating crisps, biscuits and cakes at this party, which are also empty calories and nutritionally empty, so why the fuss over 100ml of squash? Priorities, people.

You know I don't know how I and my contemporaries survived childhood. We must have frequently gone- oh, I don't know- 3 hours - without a drink. And quite often we sat through whole lessons without the opportunity to "rehydrate". How we aren't all dried out husks drifting in the wind I'll never know.

This is all very well, but what I really need to know, after reading the whole thread, is why the kittens is it called "squash"?

Oh, and YANBU.

Crabapple, the fact that sportsmen doing heavy athletics may need specialist stuff to rehydrate doesn't mean a child running around at a party does. After all, as others have said, we must have evolved to rehydrate from moderate exercise on water, seeing that the rivers don't run on blackcurrant squash.

What strikes many of us oldies (approaching my fiftieth here) is the growing application of specialist needs to everyday situation: if an athlete in heavy training needs a special nutrition plan, then little Johnnie must need the same thing to have the energy to pass the parcel. If a marathon runner needs specially constructed shoes to deal with the miles of pounding against the pavements, then little Emily must have something similar to walk to the park. Imho this is taking childhood a lot more seriously than it deserves.

And besides, the difference between a child at a party and an athlete swigging from his energy drink between heats is that the child will be ingesting all sorts of salts and plenty of sugar from the party drink; it doesn't have to come from the food.