To find Jimmy Carr's latest 'joke' really disgusting and pathetic

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Jimmy Carr has done it again. Nor content with making deeply disrespectful and horrid jokes about soldiers, he has now made a joke about children with Down's Syndrome and the Sunshine Variety coaches that do so much to help these kids and others too.

I used to like him but he goes too far. I really think that some things should not be joked about. Why do some people feel the need to tell
Jokes like that?

Yet, I am also aware of the fact that we can't censor jokes, but I wish some comedians actually set out to make us laugh with properly funny jokes rather than the nasty shit that Jimmy has been peddling again.

I don't think we're talking about non-offensive comedy. Rather that comedians should pick on someone their own size.

It's not that difficult really. I don't find it that hard when out and about with ds1 to tell the difference between people cracking a joke about something he has done that's funny (even if he had no intention of it being funny) and someone pointing and saying 'wahey guys come here and look at the weird kid ha ha ha ha ha'

Hmm not really that difficult is it.

Well I suppose he had something to pray for swc

Whenshewasbad - wrong. There are plenty of very funny comedians who manage to make a living without picking on people who can't defend themselves. I can do you a very long list, if you like, but try Shappi Korsandi, Tommy Teirnan, Ross Noble, Sarah Millican, Stewart Lee, and the gorgeous Reginald D Hunter for starters. Not all of them will be to your taste, but there are tons of very funny people who don't resort to lazy playground insults aimed at the victims of discrimination.

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If jokes like that float about unchallenged because we could choose to ignore them then the premises upon which they rest, in this case that kids with DS all look the same, are also unquestioned. It's pervasive. It's the premise of the joke which is wrong, prejudices people's view of my son, and thus offends me. Harm is done to my son if the view which Carr espouses persists.

Look - a lot of other people find this guy funny. You lot frothing on here don't. Your chance of stopping this sort of humour is similar to King Canutes chance of stopping the tide coming in.

You know you don't like it, you know it will upset you, so just don't watch it.

I heart Reginald D. Hunter also.

do you really think like that?

"Your chance of stopping this sort of humour is similar to King Canutes chance of stopping the tide coming in."

Yes that must be why the TV is still full of back to back racist comedic routines Of course it can be changed if enough people point out that having a go at people with learning disabilities is unacceptable.

This isn't limited as personal taste, Whatmeworry. Whether I watch it myself or not has no bearing on what some little scrote in the street who did see the routine will shout at my son. Is my son's dignity worth so little that it is adequate for those of us who deal with the effects to simply avoid the material?

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Some jokes re race have been done really well (as I mentioned earlier Goodness Gracious Me).

good post FP
I have no problem laughing at people with disabilities if they do soemthing funny (I'd like to point out that's not something I do often :o) I do have a problem laughing at them BECAUSE of their disability. I particularly have a problem with it when the "humour" is directed at children. Oh, and when it's also complete and utter bullshit. And add to that list, not even funny, take out all the utter vileness and my 4yo can and does do better.

Or whether or not Wmw finds 'humour' directly targeted at her children acceptable also.

did GGM make sweeping, general, nasty remarks about all people of a particular race?
(I don't remember it doing so, but only watched 1 or 2 episodes)

His latest DVD stand-up show was on c4 this eve - I watched the first half and had to turn over, I was so gobsmacked at his misogynist 'jokes' repeatedly insulting his female audience. Lazy, lazy stuff.

I like 8 out of 10 cats and think it shows off his rapier-quick comedy responses - I don't understand why when he does stand-up he resorts to shock tactics. Well reading swc's posts I'm starting to - bit of a defence mechanism to attack those weaker than him.

Also annoys me when comedians go on tour to somewhere outwith the M25 and spend the first 30% of their act making insulting and not very funny jokes about their audience. Edinburgh festival really suffers from this, gets very repetitive when every single comedian you see does it.

Edam. Why should people only see acts you approve.

You like Edam cheese (I assume, I prefer something stronger like Stilton, I know a lot of people don't like the stuff but they don't have to eat it).

Yes I know a comparing cheese and discrimination is mental, think it is time to get some sleep.

Sorry that post was a general rant, ignore me

wtf?
I am neither a polar bear nor stealthy. HTH

Goodness Gracious Me was written and performed by Asians though. The jokes were either directed towards Indian stereotypes or viewed the British from an Indian perspective

I would have no problem at all with people DS producing comedy in which they made fun of stereotypes of people with DS, or indeed the dominant non-learning disabled culture.

It's a completely different style of joke with a different power balance.

Laughing at people below you in the social pecking order is never funny. Goodbess Gracious Me didn't do that.

yes, that's what I remember, parody of English perception of INdian people. and shit

in fact GGM is a poor comparison. The B&W minstrels are probably more analagous. Not been aound for a few decades, have they?

So by WSWBSWH's logic bring back Jim Davidson to mainstream TV and re run some Bernard Manning quick. Maybe Nick Griffin would like his own show, after all who are we to stop offensive material being broadcast?