To think that 'economic migrants' should not be entitled to 'social housing'?

[MrsVoltar]

Am I BU? I would like to be told YABU & given reasons why. I don't (think) I have a problem with 'economic migrants', by that I mean people who move to another country for better pay/ more jobs etc, but I didn't expect they would be entitled to social housing. Why are they?

Why, when the govt is making so many cuts this priority housing is being given to 'economic migrants'? I don't mean 'asylum seekers' or people in genuine need who cannot return to their home country. Surely if you move to another country for better pay/job prospects you should be willing to 'pay your way' in the accomodation market too?

I'd be very surprised if reciprocal arrangements were in place in other countries. Could someone from the UK move to Spain, for example, get a job there, have children & be entitled to 'social housing' there? I would like to be told I am wrong (I really dislike having a 'Daily Mail' attitude to this!)

(a bit scared, this is my first AIBU !)

Oh, come on, that's being a bit unfair.

You made a generalization. Hully called you on it and made another generalization. We discovered you were incorrect in the vast majority of cases and Hully was correct in teh vast majority of cases Now you want to say that Hully was just as wrong as you ?

Good post machachu, I absolutely see your point.

What the he'll are you talking about op polish young men are fast becoming our largest population of homeless

And no matter were someone comes from if they have children or a pregnant the council have a duty that said the duty should be for them to be housed only after every one else who holds Red British passport is

My beef is people shouldn't be allowed in, in the first place unless they hVe enough to live on

Where was I incorrect?

I stated an opinion, opinions are not wrong

I nowhere stated ALL economic migrants. I had no understanding of why they were entitled but knew that they were, I was asking why they were and wondering if others were aware (besides the DM types).

Hully (and others ) made very sweeping generalisations, IMO.

What do you mean, where are you incorrect? You're incorrect because it's not true what you're saying. Economic migrants are not (with rare exceptions) entitled to social housing, and that is the premise of your title. They are not being 'given' priority housing.

If you do not want to be called on generalizations, don't make them. You cannot expect to make a generalization and not get a generalized correction if you are mostly wrong. You were mostly wrong. It's not rocket science.

But its not rare exceptions, they are entitled, and I did clarify that I was talking about EU Economic migrants.

Link from Cloissant up thread gave evidence that EU members are basically equal when it comes to 'social housing'.

Your wronger than me

Your wronger than me

ner ner ner

AArgh!

I should never have started this!!

Forgive me Mumsnet, I have sinned

Reminds self never to start a thread in AIBU.

Vey very neglectful mummy today because of this.

Turns off laptop

Opens is it too early??

I will find it later but I read a report that showed immigrants were a benefit rather than a burden.

Maybe the Mail should write something along these lines, they could make it up if they want, no different than normal.

There were a fair few British immigrants in my home town. One hopes they were economic migrants and not asylum seekers. Perfectly possible that now and then some of them fell on hard times and needed assistance from the system. Which they would be entitled to.

I have been an immigrant in the UK for the last 18 years, during which time I have paid my taxes and contributed to society in various ways. It is always possible that I could lose my job: if so, how long would I have to wait before I was morally entitled to support.

There is no evidence at all that large numbers of EU migrants are coming into the country without any means of support; usually they come because they have a job lined up. Jobs can be lost, naturally enough, and if you have been out of your own country for long enough it can be difficult to return there.

"The Government, business organisations and many others argue that
immigration creates significant economic benefits for the UK. In a major
speech on immigration in December 2007, the Home Secretary, Jacqui
Smith MP, spoke of the ?purity of the macroeconomic case for migration?.
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Making a similar point, the Immigration Minister, Liam Byrne MP, recently
said that ?there are obviously enormous economic benefits of immigration ?
There is a big positive impact on the economy which is worth about £6
billion?.
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The £6 billion figure is based on calculations by the Treasury,
which also suggest, as the Government frequently points out, that
immigration contributed about 15?20% to output growth during the period "

Seriously I don't think any body who wasnt born here should be entitled to economic housing

fabby I was born here, as were DP and DD2. Dd1 wasn't, however.

Shall I get her coat?

sticky

Great example of how a simplistic view on immigration just doesn't work

Fabby

Guess I better leave then . I was not born here but my dc were and eldest almost 18 fown to 6 so should I leave them home alone

But dam where would I hide my passport you know that uk one but hey ho since not born here I don't count .( ignores fact not born here due to my dad serving in the British army or the fact that my NANs family are in doomsday boom ( English enough for you )

Between me and dc we have British passports ( all of us ) , ds1/ds2 joint nationality so hold Italian

Me I'm a greedy cow and hold 3 (British maltease by birth and Irish because I thought two not enough ( my mums Irish hence the pass port)

I don't think any body who wasnt born here should be entitled to economic housing

What is economic housing?

So if our family should fall on dire straits, DH & all the kids should get into a council house, but I should be out on the streets, right?

ragged looks like me and you be sleeping under a bridge

Deal, I'll bring the .