Teachers - you're 'avvin a laugh aintcha?

[mholdall]

Kids recently had a week off - half term. They were back this week then, guess what - teacher training day. Seriously, what I want to know is this: is there ANY other job in the country where you get:

• 13 paid weeks holiday a year
• Good pay
• Good pension (believe me, you do compared to people who do proper jobs in private sector - if you dont believe me, try it)
• And yet you still need these extra days to do some training. Training for what, exactly? Seriously, for what???? And how am I, as a parent, supposed to factor childcare in here.
• Oh, and you still do nothing but moan about pay, pensions etc
• Rant over

Ilovesooty- absolutely.

How vair restrained Katie

There is literally no money you could pay me that would make me spend 40 weeks of the year in the company of other people's children. As I say to my nanny often.

Ok....
Shag. Shoot. Kill.
FC. Donald Sutherland. Jude Law.

I agree with you O.P.

And of course school is child care. Wait till the snow starts and the government starts tut-tutting over schools that choose to remain closed for health and safety reasons. Try explaining that school is not child-care when you're unemployed and have a child in school. Won't go down well.

I didn't read all of the thread but val

WORK OF ART

Isn't it Shag, snog, kill? Isn't't shooting quite likely to result in killing?

Or is is snog, marry, kill?

Anyhoo - snog - FC
shag/kill - Jude Law
marry/shoot - Donald Sutherland

No Tufty! I'd feel obliged to shag FC since the alternative would be to murder him. Imagine that beard and all that ho ho hoing

no tongues though

In that case:
snog: Donald
marry: FC
kill: Jude

Oh FFS, what is going on tonight with all the teacher bashing?

FWIW, I took my Alevels in 1989 and got an A and 2 Bs so not great but not bad back then! I have a good degree from an RG university, a PGCE and a Masters.

I have left teaching and when I finish retraining, I will be a chartered accountant. This will enable me not to be up until midnight working and to be able to spend my weekends with my kids.
DH is a lawyer and doesn't put in half the amount of effort or emotional investment into his job despite earning 4x what I did. It always amazed him that I gave up my lunchbreak to take a club and held two clubs after school for no other reason than to offer something extra to the kids I taught!

When do you actually suggest teachers do training or are you saying it shouldn't happen? If it doesn't happen how do they keep abreast of current good practice etc? Or are you suggesting it should happen during the school hols?

I don't think Ive met many if any teachers who would dispute the fact that the holidays are welcome and generous but they are inflexible and there is a ceiling to what you can earn if you want to stay in the classroom. I am so glad to be out of it.

Teachers are lovely.

Now back to the major issue.

Isn't it shag, marry, kill?

Jamie you are correct. The wine/time relation has affected my judgement.
Spangled you're right. It'd be all over the Daily Mail too. FC in shagging shock expo. The shame.

Ooh, it's too confusing. Let's play Jenga.

Yes, sorry to derail, Mildly! I started that post about half an hour ago but new DS2 was screaming.

I mean he's a newborn not that I've swapped an old DS2 for a newer model!

I appreciate you

I need those extra 'training' days to look through holiday brochures to find some nice places to visit in my 13 weeks off. I need at least one day to count all my money whilst eating beluga caviar. Moron.

If I'd have known they did refunds and exchanges I'd have kept the receipts.

And as for the training, how else do you expect we keep our standards of teaching in line with government requirements? Or do you just expect that these things happen at the click of a finger?

Biggest bunch of crap I've read on MN to date.

DD2s teachers training day is her usual day off, she will be working when she hoped to spend the day with her dad who's over from the states.
No getting out of working that day.

Yea, but, they have to spend half the day with disgusting snotty nosed 6 year olds, or stoppy zit faced teens. I think that balances things out, don't you?

and I have better A levels than you.

I guess at least she can use her dad to do her child care, which normally she'd have to find for non workday inset days.