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To wish parents would put their babies in the car rather than leave them in the trolly whilst they unpack the shopping?

121 replies

Rollergirl1 · 25/10/2011 17:33

Have just been to Tesco. I was reversing out of my space when I saw in my rear-view mirror that the car immediately to the right of the car I was heading towards had a young child still sat in the trolly. Not only was she still in the trolly but they had the bit that she was in facing out into the road rather than closest to their parked car. I have parking sensors in my car so there was no chance of me hitting the trolly or the child. But I was inching closer and closer. I couldn't wait as I was holding up traffic from both sides. I just kept thinking why don't they get her out and put her in the car but instead they just scowled at me!

Honestly, some parents have no brains!

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westonsorganic · 25/10/2011 19:25

YABU and judgey
we can't always conduct a full risk analysis on every single task. Plus if they were unloading the shopping surely it was right next to them....

beepbeep · 25/10/2011 19:26

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benandhollyandgaston · 25/10/2011 19:26

"I couldn't wait as I was holding up traffic from both sides."

Yes you could, you should have pulled back into your space and let the traffic past.

For future ref, if you reverse into the parking space instead of driving in forwards then you won't have to inch that close to somebody else's car and you shouldn't encounter this problem again.

squeakyfreakytoy · 25/10/2011 19:27

There is no way I'd leave a baby or child unattended in a car

Unattended is going doing the shopping.... leaving them for less than 20 seconds while you take a trolley back, is not leaving them unattended.

MrsStephenFry · 25/10/2011 19:27

How about if I'm standing at a bus stop at the side of a busy road? Can I have my child in a buggy or do I have to lock them in a steel vault for fear of you mowing them down?

lovechoc · 25/10/2011 19:27

YANBU - I had to tell DH once when out doing the shopping at the end as we were putting shopping in the boot that he'd be better putting DS2 into the car first and then put the shopping in the boot. He didn't understand what the fuss was about. It's just a habit I've gotten into now.

I can see where OP is coming from but also where others are coming from because if you put your DC into the car first and walk to the trolley park, you're leaving the DC behind for a minute or two to do this, leaving them unsupervised.

Another case of you cannot win Sad

oldteacher · 25/10/2011 19:28

It's safer (for all pedestrians) if drivers reverse into a car park space than reverse out of it. As a driver you have much more of a visual field going in and out of the space, plus you're more likely to position the car more accurately in the space.

rhondajean · 25/10/2011 19:29

Well if you had seen a particular episode of the Oprah Winfrey show, where a mother had her car carjacked at the supermarket with the baby inside it, and was in tears begging people to keep their children with them while they loaded the car, you would probably not have thought they had no brains. And yes I know its one in a million but it has happened.

If I recall, the police were also on the show advising people to do precisely what the parents had done and keep the child in the trolley too.

squeakyfreakytoy · 25/10/2011 19:32

It's safer (for all pedestrians) if drivers reverse into a car park space than reverse out of it

Normally I would agree, but a supermarket is different. People need access to their boot, and there is nothing worse than seeing some dimwit trying to scrape their trolley up between two cars.

itspeanutbutterjellytime · 25/10/2011 19:33

Anyway, where else was the mother supposed to put the trolley? I'm assuming you weren't in a parent nd child space, since you say you had so little space?

itspeanutbutterjellytime · 25/10/2011 19:33

Rhonda Sad

Rollergirl1 · 25/10/2011 19:34

How can it take a minute or two to return a shopping trolley. It takes me 10/20 seconds. And yes I leave the DC's in the car while I do it.

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Insomnia11 · 25/10/2011 19:34

Well I put my kids in the car first as generally I think someone reversing into the trolley is about 1000 times more likely than car jacking.

Also I'm surrounded by Range Rovers and Audis. I hardly think potential car thieves would be lusting after my Renault estate. Hmm

oldteacher · 25/10/2011 19:37

Personally I'd still prioritise the safety of people around me over someone's paint job on a car.

squeakyfreakytoy · 25/10/2011 19:39

Please dont say you would scrape up between two cars oldteacher ?Shock

itspeanutbutterjellytime · 25/10/2011 19:39

roller it depends where they put the parent and child spaces, doesn't it? at our 'brilliantly designed' new Tesco, the p&c spaces are at the far end of the car park away from the store and there are none of those trolley shed things.

But even if you don't have a shit Tesco, why should you leave your child alone in the car? Fine for an older child/toddler maybe, but I don't feel comfortable with it. As I said before, my child my choice.

And as I said before, if this were a disabled person who was a bit in the way whilst they popped their shopping in the boot of their car, or stowed their wheelchair away; the OP would have been flamed I bet!

rhondajean · 25/10/2011 19:41

Ok dont shoot the messenger, was merely passing on the police advice, up to you what you do with it.

BupcakesandHaunting · 25/10/2011 19:51

I left DS in a trolley once whilst unpacking.

Then he stated rolling away from me just as a car was turning into the bay. I shit myself and have not done it since.

And no, the trolley didn't have brakes before any of the smartarses in this thread pose the question.

OP YANBU.

chippy47 · 25/10/2011 20:01

OP -you are a bad driver as you did not actually look behind you physically before reversing (only used your mirrors) which is a requirement to pass your driving test. If you had you would have seen them.

#lookwherethefeckyouaregoing and #holdingpeopleupinacarparkisnottheendoftheworld

BoffinMum · 25/10/2011 20:06

Another option might have been to offer to help the parents concerned, for example by keeping an eye on the trolley or returning it for them. Did you think of that?

NoOnesGoingToEatYourEyes · 25/10/2011 20:18

They were probably scowling at you because you were scowling at them.

There's more than one supermarket in the world, some have trolley bays that are spaced quite far apart and so would mean a minute or two to return a trolley and perhaps leaving your child out of sight in the car.

Before we moved house our nearest supermarket didn't have a trolley bay within sight of the P&C spaces as those spaces were situated around the corner from the main car park. And the trolleys that are designed to hold a young baby still in a removable car seat and the ones with little infant seats were kept inside the building.

Yes you should make sure that the trolley is secure and not likely to roll away but if you leave your child in the car while you take your trolley back someone somewhere has already judged you OP and decided you have no brains for leaving a child alone in a car even for just 20/30 seconds.

And yes, if I can't pay at the pump I will take my child with me to pay at the petrol station if there is a queue. I can't believe you would leave your child alone in a car next to a machine of flammable liquid in a place where your car could be rear ended quite easily Hmm.

I do take my sons safety very seriously. I lost my daughter because our car was hit at red traffic lights by a lorry driver who didn't take the time to secure his vehicle. But I still stop at red lights even when my son is in the car. When my son was a year old we were also hit from behind by a driver who had taken his eyes off the road to light a cigarette, as he came around a bend and who admitted to be going faster than the speed limit. His excuse was "I've never seen anybody turn into that road (the entrance to a zoo, so clearly a little used road Hmm) so I wasn't expecting a car to be waiting here."

From those two experiences you might have to forgive me for feeling that my son is safer out of the car, rather than suggest I have no brains to want to keep him with me until I am also ready to get in the car.

People have given you a lot of good reasons why they leave their children sitting in them while they unpack the shopping. If you had hit that trolley it would have been your own fault, you were the driver in the moving vehicle. It's your responsibility to look for things like this and drive accordingly. It's not an excuse to leave a trolley at a dangerous angle, with or without a child sitting in it. But you have to expect and look for trolleys behind cars in car parks, especially in the smaller bays, because it's just not possible to fit them down the side of the cars.

blackoutthesun · 25/10/2011 20:40

nooneisgoingtoeatyoureyes

i'm so so sorry Sad

itspeanutbutterjellytime · 25/10/2011 20:43

noone I am so sorry Sad that is awful.

lovelyredwine · 25/10/2011 20:50

Well I always keep my DD in the trolley and then take the trolley back to the trolley park and then carry her back to the car. A police officer friend of mine dealt with a car theft where the baby was in the car whilst mum nipped off to put the trolley away. Needless to say, the mum was distraught.

I always put the trolley down the side of the car though whilst unpacking it largely due to the fact that the boot is full up with pram so shopping tends to go on the seats.

BoffinMum · 25/10/2011 20:51

Sad Sorry for your loss.