to point out that people have been moaning about mumsnet "not being what it was" for years...

[BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead]

Reading an old thread that was linked to in another and found this comment that made me laugh...

VeniVidiVickiQV Mon 16-Jul-07 18:57:55
Crikey. This thread is everything about Mumsnet that has been dull, predictable and shite recently.
Some really awful stuff on here. Agree with custy et al.

I wonder if it's ever been "good" considering the amount of people who moan about terrible it is compared to what it "used to be".

There are a lot more people actively looking to upset people or actually shout you down should you have a different opinion...

But that's part of what makes it MN and I can't stay away

I suppose it was once much smaller and more intimate. Some people..nt many, seem to remember that.

I havent been here as long as some, but its well over two years now. And it honestly doesnt seem any different to the day I joined!

Well, the solution is at everyone's own fingertips.

Start the threads you want to see, and post in the style you like to read.

I know that forums do change - it is the nature of them!

I just SOMETIMES miss the MN on old, but onwards and upwards ...

Actually, I was going to say MN isn't like it was yesterday

God I miss Vicki.

But, yes, certainly in all the time I have been here, there has been constant threads about it 'not being like it used to'.

I imagine they started, oooooooh about 6 weeks after it's creation.

But then again, it's not is it, it's changed an awful lot in just the last three and a half years.

But surely the point of these forums is that they change?

I've just joined, and like any sensible person did a bit of research to establish the tone of the place.

I like it.

But looking at the 1361 pages of AIBU topics I came across this from 2007

HeartOnMyGreensleeve Wed 14-Feb-07 22:44:49
I'm getting pretty hacked off with the whole thing. Everything around here seems to be miserable and vicious at the moment. I suppose I need a "break", but I am too sad and undisciplined to stay away [sigh of despondency]

So, BeyondLimits YANBU :)

I also think that AIBU was "born" in 2007 because nothing is previous to that and the first few pages mention people "not liking this new topic"

My conclusion. People will always moan about stuff, but I believe it is what you make it.

Of course it isn't the same. It evolves organically, like the human race itself. Or mould.

But may I say, not in a provocative way, that all these comments about MN not being the same does rather make a new person like me feel a little intimidated.

But then I also believe that it's up to me to get involved, I don't expect a welcome party. I suppose people have to prove that they are worthy of being noticed in a space as big as this.

If at first you don't succeed and all that...

Six, you'll make newbie error, start a silly thread in AIBU, be flamed and name change, so don't worry :)

SSW what you need to do to get noticed is to post in AIBU, something along the lines of "AIBU to think you are all ignorant bullying bitches who should take me very seriously indeed"

Try that

btw, people really have done that

it didn't end well

It is just sad when long time posters say goodbye because they have had to defend and explain themselves once again to a braying mob or defend themselves against insensitive, rude and personal attacks.

AIBU is the devil's work ...

I started a thread in AIBU last night, only got a few responses. I was gutted!

I'm far too reasonable to be unreasonable :)

the devils work? I thought that was facebook {wink}

you need [ these ] brackets for a smilie

What's that ??

got ya!

CRIKEY indeed vvq agreed with me...and i had an et al!!