To trhinkl that it is madness to allow buggies on buses?

[mrsruffallo]

I think wherever possible (i.e older babies onwards) buggies should be folded up. I am so tired of these oversized contraptions being pushed through the aisles, banging passengers thighs and shoulders as the squeeze talong a narrow aisle. I have had my ankles knocked todday and somehow had to squeeze against another passenger along the crowded aisle to make room for yet another buggy.
Theworst thing I have witnesses was a wheeelchair user being denied access onto the bus because there was already a buggy in the wheelchair space. The buggy owner didn't offer to fold up and got off a few stops later.

I had a budgie years ago, he could whistle the Neighbours theme tune!

My family budgie used to fly onto the curtains and screech "Bloody get him off there!"

zombie budgies are the best thing about this thread!

Too physically disabled to drive and the mum of infant twins, people like you are why we spent 6 months only going places within walking distance.

I'd love a budgie, wouldn't take it in the bus though.

I think yabu, however a wheelchair user should never be refused. A parent or carer with a pram should fold or get off if necessary.
Where I live there is 2 spaces on buses- 1 for a wheelchair and 1 for prams.
Personally I would get off and wait for the next bus rather than fold my pram.
But it's not right that prams should not be allowed on buses

a bit mean OP. Do you have children? If not: you cannot know what it's like with a buggy in a bus, with a child.
If yes and you yourself been on a bus with said buggy and child:YABVU. And you should know better

What we need is specialist budgie buses!:o

It's no good having a go at the OP though. This is a zombie thread (six years old FFS) about a subject that's been done to death - and the poster who resurrected it had basically searched for all buggy on bus threads and resurrected them!

When did it stop being essential to fold a buggy when getting on a bus? The answer is when disabled people finally succeeded in their campaign to make public transport accessible to wheelchair uses. Buses then had to have wheelchair spaces. When such spaces weren't being used, drivers turned a blind eye to parents using the space to park an unfolded buggy.

'and newborn budgies or at least correctly made newborn budgies don't fold up'

I wouldn't be able to fold up my pram or buggy and hold my baby and stuff without help and it's really not fair (and more inconvenient to the other passengers if I do that) and I have a bad back so holding my extremely active baby would be difficult. This is why I plan which buses I get carefully - avoiding busy times and routes and I would always, always get off to allow a wheelchair or someone with a mobility aid on. There is a couple in my village who get on 2 - 3 times a week with a suitcase, would you ban them? Or limit how many bags of shopping each person brings on? Yes we should all be considerate of others and yes the wheelchair always gets the space over the buggy or pram but when the space is not required there is nothing wrong with it being used by a pram or buggy or two!

One of mine can't fly at the moment because the breeder trimmed his wings before we got him (hmm]) and they haven't grown back yet. He would LOVE that bird bus.

But he would use it considerately!!

I've never seen a pushchair anywhere but in the designated space, and definitely not in the bloody aisle. No idea what mad place you live in where people wheel their buggies up the aisle.

Yes wheelchair users have priority, and that was as much the bus drivers fault as the person with the buggy. I have to get the bus as I don't drive and twice I have gotten off the bus for a wheelchair user, (one time ended with me walking 3 miles home wearing a baby in a sling and a toddler in the pushchair. And the other time, a 25 minute wait in the rain in the dark for another bus)

Not gonna lie, as someone who always has a pushchair with me; I'm getting pretty sick of all the complaints of 'buggies on the pavements' 'buggies on the busses'. I am as considerate as I can be, and to be fair, when I am out, it's not the pushchair users that have bumped into me or taken up too much space or dawdled slowly. It's usually women in power suits on the phone powering through anyone and everyone, or women with gigantic handbags over their shoulders that they have no problem smacking into everyone with. Or groups of teenage school children standing around in large groups, blaring music and swearing loudly and being to blind to other people needing to use the bloody pavement.

Don't tar everyone with the same brush.

I'm sorry we are such an inconvenience to you, but I have places to go, and that requires a pushchair.

I think it's a weird that someone will take a buggy onto public transport with the expectation that they won't need to fold it down. The buggy should be easy to fold down with however many kids you have, or you make alternative arrangements. Am sure many a selfish parent will argue with me here, but seriously - there is no right to a fixed buggy.

Hey, it's a zombie and I have no budgies, but here goes.

I seldom use buses. I bought a lovely pram prior to DS1's birth. Fitted my needs. Separated nicely into two parts to fit in my boot. A couple of years later I had DS2. So I now had a newborn, 2 year old, and SPD that was worsened by a difficult birth. I could walk down to the local shops/GP, but it burned too much to drag my leg back up the hill back home. So I did a one way bus trip with a pram with the newborn laid down and the 2 year old on a seat on top. Slightly more efficient than a double buggy.

Folding wasn't really an option as I would then be wrestling with a pram but nowhere to store it in a safe space saving position while simultaneously holding a new baby and toddler.

Fortunately my route has well designed buses with a disabled and buggy bay, and I also lived up the quiet end with few people getting on at the last few stops that I was using so it never became necessary to justify my needs that the pram was too difficult to fold, and that I was on the bus as I wasn't physically capable of walking.

Haven't read the full thread, I get wanting pushchair users to fold them up etc which is hard so I'd probably rather get off for a wheelchair user, unless I'm on my way to an appointment about my daughters health then I'd have to fold. All I ask though, is for the drivers not to start driving until my child is safe, I hate when they start moving while my daughter is standing by my les while I fold a buggy and organised the shopping so it doesn't fly down the aisle, then the bus moves and we all go falling, hence why I'd rather just get off. I think until those who push prams etc get more respect it makes us resentful to want to move because it would make our child unsafe, I mean people complain about forward facing car seats, so why is a child standing, or sitting in a seat with the ability to fall any less safe?

Given that some city centre buses have been known to travel more slowly "than mice or chickens", whilst stumbling in an aisle could cause an injury, it's not exactly comparable to a car seat where the car could be whizzing down a motorway at 70+mph!

I think the zombie warning should stay for the first 10 replies. I can't understand why anyone searches for and resurrects such an old thread.

Fuck sake, just realised it's a zombie thread. Wasted time reading and replying 🙄