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To think school have said no for my child absence for a family holiday

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HidingInTheBathroom · 06/10/2011 17:05

We are going on holiday next month. My DS (8) school have refused the leave.

I handed the form in yesterday and got a reply today. I wouldn't mind but he never has time off school. He has not had 1 day off this year and last year he had 1 and half days off because he was sick at school and was still poorly the day after.

We have never been on holiday in school time and out of all his school life I think he has had a total of 4-5 days off ill.

They say if I take him I could get find. Going next month so my DS will be off school for a total of 10 days. We have been waiting for this holiday for 4 years.

AIBU to think they should off not refused this absence.

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jade80 · 08/10/2011 14:15

You can tell the difference between there and their because you just wrote them down and clearly acknowledge the difference.

So is it that you aren't really bothered? If so that's fair enough. If you are bothered, just work out a quick way to remember the difference. There are plenty.

If you don't care, then say so, don't say it is because of dyslexia. Plenty of dyslexics get it right. How do you know I'm not dyslexic?

You're right to sound them out the same, they do sound the same.

A lisp is different. IMO.

I'm not bothered about having to read the thread a few times. You asked if I could read it and I answered honestly- yes I can, but I find it harder to read the way you write. It's nothing personal. It doesn't offend me either.

So you say 'you was'? Fair enough if you do, but it's wrong. Don't teach your kid it is correct. Right or wrong, it may well affect their chance to do certain jobs. I'm not saying that is right, but it is how the world is. This stuff is important, like it or not. Especially if you're taking 2 weeks off in the sun at a time your child is being taught grammar at school.

I still think you should go to Florida and sod them though!

WidowWadman · 08/10/2011 14:31

Yes, family holidays are important. But the choice surely is not Disney Theme Park in Florida during term time or nothing. They could choose to have a thoroughly educational happy family holiday during the summer holidays or half term elsewhere.

I'm not sure how important a visit to a Disney Themepark is, never having been to one all my life, but my education doesn't seem to have suffered too much from this lack of experience...

HidingInTheBathroom · 08/10/2011 14:34

Yes I can read them and spell them it is in sentences I can not tell the difference. As for the speech thing I was in speech and language for upto my teens. Thus is due to a very bad start in life I had (don't want to go in too much details). So my speech may not be all proper but this is me. If you understand it then there should not be a problem.

Yes In certain type of applications Then I would get some one to proof read as not matter how many times I read it back I can not see the mistakes until there pointed out to me. But u do not think MN is one of them

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jade80 · 08/10/2011 14:38

Fair enough. You're entitled to not be bothered enough to change it. There are plenty of things I'm not bothered about enough to change them myself!

Just I wish people wouldn't blame it on dyslexia when it's just they don't care enough to re-learn it.

It grates on me and seems a little unfair on those who struggle with something that genuinely is related to dyslexia.

Plenty of things about me probaby grate on other people to though hey!

MollieO · 08/10/2011 14:40

We went to Disneyland in Paris. That was enough for ds (then aged 6) to say he never wanted to go anywhere like that again. He hated it more than me! Fine to take two weeks out of school in term time but its a shame it is for something so mundane. Doing a two week safari or other adventure holiday would be both very memorable and educational and be cheaper.

didldidi · 08/10/2011 14:41

can you hear that "And it is bit just Disney in Florida" doesn't make sense? because I am not sure what you are trying to say

HidingInTheBathroom · 08/10/2011 14:48

Sorry I was men't to say an it is not just Disney in Florida

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peaz · 08/10/2011 14:48

OH is a police detective in London and has been told that all annual leave has been cancelled next year for either June, July and August or July, August, September because of the Olympics and Paralympics. This has yet to be decided.

Now, what are families whose parents are in the Met supposed to do? Firstly, it hasn't been decided. A lot of families book holidays well in advance to get good summer holiday deals but they can't. Secondly, it if is decided, either option means they can't take holidays during the Summer period. What should they do?

We're going away in May but our son is only 3 and at preschool so attendance doesn't matter but if we had school-aged kids, we most certainly will be taking them out of school.

Oh and when I was 10, I went to California for a month and I turned out to be a well rounded individual!

HidingInTheBathroom · 08/10/2011 14:49

Mollie a safari holiday is much more expensive we looked into it. If you price up a Florida holiday and compare it too some there is a huge difference.

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Sirzy · 08/10/2011 14:52

Peaz I think schools should use discretion in cases where the parents have jobs in the army or if police leave is cancelled. If it's just "we fancy going to Florida" then thats difference as the parents do have other options available.

CalamityKate · 08/10/2011 14:55

Pfft.

I asked for the boys to come out of school 2 HOURS early on the last day of term before the summer hols, for a family outing. TWO HOURS they would have missed - of watching DVDs and playing games.

Refused to authorise.

And they've both got excellent attendance records.

I'm not asking next time. I'll just tell them.

norriscoleforpm · 08/10/2011 14:56

We have had a specific note in the school newsletter about how many parents are asking for leave during term and how it impacts the school figures and OFSTED particularly. We have done it on a few occasions for our middle child, but if the school is being affected - which in turn leads to the possibilty of low Ofsted grades, less funding etc, I think people should think carefully about their reasoning. Yes, we have always done it because of a) cost and b) the fact that anywhere popular abroad is hideous in August Grin, but now i am looking at it in a less selfish way.

WidowWadman · 08/10/2011 14:59

Hiding you can get poking round real (not pink plastic) castles and seeing tons of exciting wildlifefor example for the fraction of the cost of Florida Disneyworld or a Safari if you rent a cottage or go camping in Wales or Scotland, or the Lakes, or the Peak. An arctic hare running up a munroe or a golden eagle soaring overhead is as exciting, if not more than stalking wildebeest on a guided tour.

Holidays can be fun and educational even if they don't involve several hours of flight, a holiday rep and an all-inclusive deal.

A1980 · 08/10/2011 15:00

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Andrewofgg · 08/10/2011 15:02

WidowWadman I like your nickname - I think I'll change mine to Uncle Toby :o

jade80 · 08/10/2011 15:03

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omnishambles · 08/10/2011 15:04

OP am going to ignore the bunfight - I dont personally take mine out of school - we stick to the hols no matter how inconvenient but just a quick tip to avoid thanksgiving week in Disneyworld like the plague or it wont be less busy at all - in fact it will be heaving.

A1980 · 08/10/2011 15:04

^ I didn't have time to read 9 pages Jade..... so didn't know what had gone on before.

jade80 · 08/10/2011 15:06

Ha ha sorry you only need to go back a page or two- I was quite late to the thread too!

clam · 08/10/2011 15:20

I think YABU to expect the school to give their blessing to you taking the DCs out of school during term-time. There is no way they will sanction it for the reasons you have given. Of course, you're going to go (and I understand why) but there's no point stropping because you've officially been told "no."

And the fact that your DC has had good attendance so far, has to be irrelevant. "Oh, your child has enjoyed good health, so yes, we'll authorise at holiday. But Mrs X's child has been been chronically unwell all year and suffering with all manner of things, so no, they cannot go." How would that be OK?

working9while5 · 08/10/2011 15:37

Jade, your comments are truly vile and disgusting but I'm not going to report them because I hope you grow to be ashamed of them. I am a speech and language therapist and the OP has pretty much told you that she has an identified disability with speech and language which impacts upon her grammar and spelling. I work with young people with Specific Language Impairment and related language and reading disabilities and you really haven't got a sodding clue as to how hard it is to change these features. You haven't a notion what you are talking about yet you have happily flamed someone for demonstrating features of a disability that affects 6% of the population.

The kids I work with work their bloody socks off and their writing will always seem different to people like you and I, Jade, who have an innate ability to pinpoint potential errors in spoken language and alter them accordingly.

Some adults will acquire these types of difficulties after stroke so believe me when I say there but for the grace of God we all go. In no circumstance would it be acceptable to laugh at someone with a limp for not trying hard enough to walk, but you have deemed it appropriate to mock someone for something that required therapy into their teens. Proud of yourself?

working9while5 · 08/10/2011 15:39

Incidentally, inconsistency in application of rules despite explicit knowledge of them is a hallmark feature of language learning disabilities Jade. Of course, you know better...

working9while5 · 08/10/2011 15:42

"Dyslexia is not using an entirely different word in place of the one you needed" - no, but this is a key feature of language impairment.

MollieO · 08/10/2011 15:43

Fair enough. I just assumed that Florida Disney would be really expensive. Disneyland Paris was ridiculously expensive for such poor quality and mass catering and don't get me started on all the tatt for sale!

I wouldn't be overly worried. If your ds already has private tuition then you can use that to catch up on anything he has missed. We usually miss the first three days of Lent term and the only difficulty I've found is being late returning activitiy choices, permission slips which are all sent out at the beginning of term. He doesn't seem to miss any real work.

Maryz · 08/10/2011 15:44

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