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To Tell My DsDad To F-Off And Not Come Back For Hitting my Dog?

95 replies

RozziPringle · 04/10/2011 08:49

He and my mother came to visit and in the past he's been quite playful with my 8 month old puppy, let her jump on him and "kiss" him etc(She's a yorkie-poo so only tiny)

Yesterday he came obviously in a foul mood, my puppy jumped up at him and tried to give him a kiss as she has done in the past, this time he hit her quite hard to the point she yelped.

I ofcourse went mental and told him to get out and not come back if he's going to do that to a member of my family, my mum just sat there and said "oh he doesnt like dogs jumping up and hates germs" Hmm. It was ok last time and how is the dog ment to know this time is different

I know i sound a bit PFD (precious first dog) and that some people dont like dogs but i wouldnt go into somones home and hit their pets. Now my mum and DsDad are not talking to me so i wondered if IWBU?

OP posts:
Crosshair · 04/10/2011 10:40

''licking people is disgusting''

Tell my dog that. :)

hmc · 04/10/2011 10:43

Licking is pretty disgusting though. My little dog in particular (mongrel) will try and french you given half the chance, and she frequently likes to chow down on poo - horse poo, cow pats (we live in country) and other dogs poo as her delicacy of choice. I haven't managed to train her not to try - I just know to avoid her darting tongue

faverolles · 04/10/2011 10:44

But Morloth, these people getting together to mate their dogs are not making a new breed, they are simply making crossbreeds.

If they got together and spent years developing a new breed there was a need for (like the non-shedding labradoodle, before all the irresponsible BYB's jumped on the lucrative bandwagon) then that's a different story.
They are breeding litters who sometimes bear no resemblance to each other, breeding from unhealthy dogs who pass on their health problems. All to make a fast buck because the puppies have a funny name.
I agree with you re. bad breeders over-developing breeds, but I hope there will come a time when there are far stricter regulations with all aspects of dog ownership.

Tangle · 04/10/2011 10:46

Because a 1st generation X is not and cannot be a "new breed" as it is very unlikely to reproduce itself. Which then furthers the potential for irresponsible breeders to take their 1st gen whatever and expect to be able to breed more cute replicas. Except they don't. And then they have a load of puppies that people don't want as they don't fit the "cute" stereotype they were hoping for and so can't be sold for whatever premium they'd command as the latest trendy pooch...

I completely agree that some breed standards have massive issues attached, and the way standards have encouraged certain traits have led to problems becoming inbred (have they resolved the issue of head-size on scottie dogs yet?) I just don't want to see the baby chucked out with the bath water!

MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 04/10/2011 10:52

I have one who likes moisturiser. If you've got any on your legs you wear a skirt at your peril.

I've been meaning to ask Valhalla, is there a country that's gotten it right in regard to dog breeding? Are there any systems out there that are working well/better than ours? With the current petition thing being run by Downing Street it would be good time to push for changes that could be shown to work.

I imagine you're busier than ever given the state of the economy Sad

eurochick · 04/10/2011 10:52

Hitting dogs is wrong.

Untrained dogs jumping up at people and licking their faces (eugh) is also wrong.

Crosshair · 04/10/2011 10:56

Just googled 'yorkie poo', so small but cute. :)

DooinMeCleanin · 04/10/2011 11:04

Whippy likes licking toes . Beware of wearing sandals around her.

PetiteRaleuse · 04/10/2011 11:16

Agh. I have a foot phobia. I don't know what I'd do if my goldie licked my toes. Agh. Dooin you've put horrible scary images in my head now.

squeakytoy · 04/10/2011 11:22

An 8 month old puppy that is a mix of poodle and yorkshire terrier is hardly going to to any damage if it jumps up.. especially at a fully grown man.

he shouldnt have hit the dog, and would have been told to leave my house if I were the Op too..

ChaoticAngelofSamhain · 04/10/2011 11:45

YANBU He shouldn't have hit the dog.

Wrt to Valhalla's posts, about breeding, I saw a programme, it wasn't specifically about dogs just this one item, a couple of weeks ago that showed how one particular dog, I think it was the bulldog, had been changed by breeders so it looked aesthetically different to how it used to. The mouth/nose was a lot shorter than how it used to be. I couldn't help thinking how it couldn't be good for the dog, although I could be wrong as I don't know much about particular breeds.

AhsataN · 04/10/2011 12:54

a pupy that is not taught manners turns into an adult dog that does what it wants.

AhsataN · 04/10/2011 13:00

puppy*

Morloth · 04/10/2011 13:08

Bulldogs are being over/inbred to the point where their skulls are too wide to fit through the mother's pelvis properly, their snouts are so recessed they cannot breathe properly, pugs have issues with their eyes popping out, cavalier king charles spaniels can have brains too big for their skulls, the latest 'version' of the GSD looks like a weird blend of dog and frog.

IMO breeding a 'designer' dog is nothing in comparison to these acts of cruelty. It sucks that they are ending up in pounds, but the breeders who are breeding for type or whatever it is called have just as much to answer for.

I think it all went wrong when we started breeding based on how the dog looked as opposed to what it could do.

Pandemoniaa · 04/10/2011 13:09

Valhalla has it in a nutshell about these ludicrous "designer breeds" and bless, you, DooinMeCleanin for debunking the equally ludicrous and totally outdated "dominance theory". It's bollocks, folks!

But equally, nobody likes to be kissed by a dog. I love my dog (as I have all those who went before him) but I know what he puts in mouth in and I'm not at all keen on sharing.

It's never acceptable to hit a dog but perhaps it might be more sensible to try and calm an over-excitable pup down before such a regrettable incident occurs. At 8 months they are still very much pups but the "not jumping up" training does need to be kindly and consistently put into practice. It's fairer on everyone, especially the pup.

WRINKLYOLDPERSON · 04/10/2011 13:09

Who cares if it's a mongrel, crossbreed, pedigree, it is a much loved family pet and being a dog owner myself, yes they do feel like part of the family. You just don't hit dogs! They may be very intelligent but tbh letting the dog jump up one day and then not another and hitting it for doing so is just ignorant. The dog will have not idea why it was hit for doing this if it has been allowed to in the past. So YANBU.

QuintessentialDread · 04/10/2011 13:15

I have only one comment.

If Yorkie Poo is a crossbreed of two dogs, and has nothing to do with a similarly named chocolate, bar, what the flippin heck is a drinky poo then?

My teeth itch when I hear people say "who is up for a drinky poo?" I always thought they meant actual drink, could they have been referring to dogs? Confused

EggyAllenPoe · 04/10/2011 13:27

YANBU OP he is a twat hitting a tiny little dog like that!!!

you don't hit other peoples dogs. not if you want to stay friends.

and faverolles

'The only exception in my eyes is the labradoodle, when it's bred extremely carefully to F2 and F3 generations and then carefully selected to be guide dogs for blind people with allergies '

if only this was true. most doodles = BYB or puppy farm dogs. some so inbred they are virtually their own grandparents. tiny minority bred by well meaning people.
if choosing a dog that must not shed, much safer with a poodle (one selected for its temperament, as, after all, not even every retriever makes a good guide dog..). even then proper allergy check with adult dogs totally necessary.....

QuintessentialDread · 04/10/2011 13:32

Do you reckon that SIL could have made a snap decision to redirect the money upon hearing about the kitchen door order? Rather than saying "sorry, we dont agree to you buying THAT", she might have just said they had made other plans.

QuintessentialDread · 04/10/2011 13:32

sorry. wrong thread/.

WRINKLYOLDPERSON · 04/10/2011 13:54

So is a bull dog and a shitzue cross called a bullshit Grin

Scuttlebutter · 04/10/2011 14:15

OP, your SD was U - nobody should hit a dog. But you are also being U - irrespective of breed, dogs shouldn't be encouraged to jump all over visitors, and certainly not to snog them. Wink

Think banning SD for life is a bit OTT, unless there are other issues. More important to have a chat about behaviour around dogs, and what you are doing to train your pup responsibly. Everyone realises that a pup (like a small child) isn't going to be perfect all the time, but equally it's important that dogs are trained carefully not to bother people who are legitimately visiting the house. Just wish I could do something to stop ours from farting so enthusiastically when we have guests.

faverolles · 04/10/2011 16:49

Eggy - that's why I added the bit about unscrupulous breeders jumping on the bandwagon.
The original breeder, with good motives, did the "breed" development slowly and carefully, but now regrets it, as the Market has been flooded by irresponsible tossers selling poorly bred, unhealthy, untrainable animals for hundreds of pounds.

My point was that the original breeder was doing the job properly, and there was the potential for a new breed, developed responsibly.

Andrewofgg · 04/10/2011 18:08

OP I see why you are pissed off but the key words are I ofcourse went mental and told him to get out and not come back if he's going to do that to a member of my family.

It's a dog. It's not a member of your family. Most of the disagreements around the interaction of dogs and humans occur because of people like you don't grasp that distinction. Another time keep the dog away from the humans - not vice versa.

If you exclude DsD don't feel surprised if your mother feels that her first loyalty is to him and stays away too.

loudee · 04/10/2011 18:16

YANBU he encouraged the dog to jump up at him previously. it is completely unfair to allow a certain behaviour one day and punish the dog for it the next. if he doesn't want the dog jumping up at him he should not have encouraged it to do so. awful.