to think taking your child out of school for a week before doing 11 plus to study is a bit wrong?

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and excessive?! My daughters friend is being taken out the week before so she can revise all day? wtf?! I mean, it is really important to us because our schools are crappy so grammar school is the preferred option, but, it feels a bit wrong, and I dont know why but I feel kind of cross about it, its not cheating, but it feels like it is, and why should she need to/ surely if she has to study excessively she is going to struggle when she gets in the school...that said, i dont think she would because i think she will pass it anyway and it is surely just putting too much pressure on the girl. All my friends seem to have gone mad, theyre not allowing their children out to play or have friends round, its crazy!

If that's very offensive you Rilly need to get out more

I don't go out, I can't afford it. Please can you answer my question, where does your reasoning come from?

What about Rory Weal? He's having a week off school to go to the Labour Conference. Is that excessive?

Merle Rory Weal will have had permission granted to take a week off for an enrichment activity. In his case it has clearly been hugely enriching. He's also 16, not 10, he has an input. That's very different from an excessively pushy mother refusing to let her 10 yr old attend for a week so that she can obsessively ply the poor kid with test paper after test paper in a desperate last attempt to perfect 11+ technique. The mum is acting unlawfully.

OP, this mum is clearly unpleasant, given how she treats you. Please ask the school very sweetly if you can take your child out too and are there any forms you should sign ?:)

hullygully, it is really very annoying when people have the pomposity to tell you you are feeling a certain way, I am perfectly happy with the way my child is getting on and think she will be perfectly well prepared without doing an extra weeks worth of cramming, and I havent just been trying to wrap it up as concern for the child, I have openly said that I feel it is unfair.

just a bit of a silly comment suenarmy really.

The thing is this child is either really clever and will pass without the extra week of tuition. In which case it's no big deal, really; she misses a week, but she's clever, so she can catch up.(and LOADS of children get taken out to go to Benidorm on the cheap).

Or she's borderline pass, in which case the extra practice could make the difference. There was some research I saw on here a few years ago which said that grammars make a significant difference to the academic achievement of this group, so worth a go, I'd say.

Or she's just not grammar school material, but they've done as much as they can to help her.

Either way - their business, really?

I've heard of some extreme coaching, but this is, well, the most extreme I've heard of.

What next? Children not going to school for the start of the autumn term in Y6 so they can practice?

I spoke to a successful tutor (90% pass rate) who told me they give intensive tuition over the summer, then stop before the 11+ to give the DC a break and prevent them burning out.

11plus, I don't think it's anymore unfair than practicing from Y3 or paying weekly or, heaven forbid, a daily tutor. Until there is some sort of surprise test that no one can practice for, it will always be unfair.

I can't see that it is going to do any good-either she can do it by then or she can't.
I wish that it was possible to have a test that couldn't be prepared for in any way and they all went in cold and only the top % could work it out for themselves.

Of course if everyone did the 11+ and the SS taught to that rather than SAT averages, this would be much better for all as tuition would be unnecessary. the only reason tutors are involved is that the primary SS do not provide the level of teaching and support to pass the 11+. This is because the teachers think the 11+ is wrong.
Why is ok to select on musical, sporting or other ability and not academic?