For thinking it's hilarious that grown adults think they can ask "the cosmos" for anything they desire??

[MuthaInsuperior]

This isn't a thread about a thread but the idea of "cosmic ordering" first became known to me yesterday when I read a thread in relationships. To be fair, I think the people in that thread were just having a laugh with it which is fair enough. But I later mentioned it to my friend (she was saying she wanted nothing more than a new house) so I joked "oh just cosmic order one, it's easy apparently" and she replied "actually I will do" and she was being totally serious. She then went on to say that she already had a cosmic order on the go and was awaiting the £350 she'd asked for to get her car fixed. She's that sure this £350 is going to magically appear that she's booked a weekend away in said car for the week after the money is due to materialise!!
So after that bewildering conversation I went on the internet to find this stuff has a HUGE following and people actually believe they can "order" anything they want from the universe. On one site "orders" were made public and there was one that made me spit my coffee out - "please universe - I want to win the lottery. I had nothing growing up and I want my kids to have everything. I will be generous of course with the money and will make sure it is well spent. Thank you" WTF??

Surely if life was this simple we'd all be walking around blissfully happy?! I don't know whether to find it funny or sad - I mean grown adults thinking to themselves "I want a brand new car - I'll ask the universe for it" and then to sit there waiting for it??

Like I said, nothing wrong in having a laugh, saying this stuff in jest or I suppose even trying it out of desperation (like a non religious people praying) but to think your general desires will come to you in such a way??

I can sort of see the 'trick' behind it - if you tell yourself you've 'ordered' something, you're more likely to think about it more and find ways of getting it.

I'm certain this is how it works sometimes, but I also think there's "helpful coincidences"

For instance, we were having money/house troubles several years ago so I asked for a reasonable house and the means to pay for it, then promptly resumed job hunting. We took a chance and moved house a month or so later and 6 weeks before the money ran out I landed the perfect job!

Similarly we needed a new car and took out a loan to pay for it. I'm very not keen on loans so promised myself I would pay it off asap, intending to work my backside off on overtime. A couple of weeks later a received a cheque through the post more than covering the amount of the loan. My granddad had passed away several months previously and he had left me some money which I had no idea about.

I'm of the opinion that if you want something then you have to do it yourself, but sometimes the universe sees fit to help you out.

Starshine brought up quantum physics... when you get down to the bare bones we literally consist of energy fields and not much else. So when you think of it like that, it can open your mind up to all sorts of things being possible.

I was in a dreadful abusive situation not very long ago which was theoretically impossible to escape from and end up where I am now IYSWIM. I wouldn't call it cosmic ordering (I think that's a bit flipant) but I imagined, lived and breathed where I wanted to be and above all believed it would happen. And despite all the odds it did.

It's as stupid as asking a beardy man living on a cloud to answer your prayers.

If one mentalist believes in something stupid they're a nutter. If 100 million mentalists believe in something stupid it's seen as reasonable and they get to go on Songs Of Praise.

Comic ordering, christianity, islam, buddism, that other well meaning one that has caused millions of deaths, they're all the same.

And of course, a beardy man on a cloud is exactly who God isn't.

For the love of God, if you don't know anything about quantum mechanics please don't try to talk about it. I've read a couple books on the subject and regard it as a complete mystery. There is no way you can treat it as some kind of cosmic feng shui.

I was up to £800 on my overdraft and was getting seriously concerned and asked the universe for that amount with a fortnight.

I got a tax rebate for £778 a week later. I was shocked because I had previously checked with work that I was on the right tax code and they said yes so I left it at that.

Meteorite who say I was talking about the christian god? I may have meant uncle Albert from only fools and horses.

"Cosmic feng shui"?

ROFL :o

So which did you mean then?

I don't understand c.o, or prayer or that.
How can someone say I got what I wanted (based on virtue, positivity, or what have you) but you haven't got what you wanted because you didn't ask right or were not deserving enough?

So a person being raped that begs for help isn't in the right frame of mind? Perhaps a starving person should just really open their mind a little wider?
Maybe they just lack faith.
Or they simply haven't taken the time to understand the science of it?

I don't understand how people can negate personal responsability, direct action, circumstance, and oppertunity.

Sorry for bringing down the thread, it just burns my wood when I come across such unreasonableness.

Goodynuff I see precisely where you're coming from with this!

It's for the very same reason that I have such enormous difficulties with that fuzzy warm feeling claim that "children choose their parents".

That's all nice and well. I can see how looking at your baby and thinking "yes, you wanted exactly me to be your mum" would make a person feel good. It kind of stops working when you consider parental abuse, though. Or the poor babies who "choose" to be born into a famine. Or as a boy to a Bosnian muslim family in Srebrenica some time in the late seventies or so.

The furthest I've seen this kind of theory taken was when someone actually claimed that these things are chosen by souls looking to learn a lesson. I'm thinking this is dangerous to the extreme. After all, if all those who died in the holocaust were basically having a great learning experience, should we not then conclude that nazism was a brilliant teacher? And hence perhaps a good thing?

Slippery slope indeed, ...

I like Bierce's definition of prayer: "That the laws of the universe be annulled in favour of a single petitioner; manifestly unworthy"

The true new ager is always one of the chosen few - never unworthy! :o

Quantum physics both cuter and significantly more true to the original than what is being claimed on this thread.

NotADudeExactly Mon 26-Sep-11 14:51:36

The true new ager is always one of the chosen few - never unworthy! grin

I agree; in a word..... delusional.