For thinking it's hilarious that grown adults think they can ask "the cosmos" for anything they desire??

[MuthaInsuperior]

This isn't a thread about a thread but the idea of "cosmic ordering" first became known to me yesterday when I read a thread in relationships. To be fair, I think the people in that thread were just having a laugh with it which is fair enough. But I later mentioned it to my friend (she was saying she wanted nothing more than a new house) so I joked "oh just cosmic order one, it's easy apparently" and she replied "actually I will do" and she was being totally serious. She then went on to say that she already had a cosmic order on the go and was awaiting the £350 she'd asked for to get her car fixed. She's that sure this £350 is going to magically appear that she's booked a weekend away in said car for the week after the money is due to materialise!!
So after that bewildering conversation I went on the internet to find this stuff has a HUGE following and people actually believe they can "order" anything they want from the universe. On one site "orders" were made public and there was one that made me spit my coffee out - "please universe - I want to win the lottery. I had nothing growing up and I want my kids to have everything. I will be generous of course with the money and will make sure it is well spent. Thank you" WTF??

Surely if life was this simple we'd all be walking around blissfully happy?! I don't know whether to find it funny or sad - I mean grown adults thinking to themselves "I want a brand new car - I'll ask the universe for it" and then to sit there waiting for it??

Like I said, nothing wrong in having a laugh, saying this stuff in jest or I suppose even trying it out of desperation (like a non religious people praying) but to think your general desires will come to you in such a way??

[Ariana86]

No harm in asking for things.. But you can make results more likely with some actual logic / problem solving etc.

[InPraiseOfBacchus]

I can sort of see the 'trick' behind it - if you tell yourself you've 'ordered' something, you're more likely to think about it more and find ways of getting it.

But you can do that without cosmic nonsense - just write a post it on your fridge for goodness sake! It makes me uncomfortable when grown adults like to imagine they're being looked after by a magical force. :(

[LadyWord]

I have a parking angel, and I talk to it. "Pleeeeease get me a space you useless fucker." "Ahh! thank you!" I'm an atheist, rationalist type and I don't really believe it



but it kind of makes the search more interesting - however it does seem to me that humans have a tendency to attribute things to a higher power, even if intellectually they have no truck with it IYSWIM.

Re parking, yes you will eventually find a space, and I'm good at squeezing into small spaces, so of course it's unrelated really.

What I hate about the whole cosmic ordering bolleaux woo-fest is the seriousness and sense of entitlement about it. These people just assume they should have this bounty and keep asking for it - it's like spoilt 6-year-olds with sweets. What about modesty and humility? Especially the Christians. And why should the Universe give a stuff? And also, if you cosmic order £350, does that mean someone somewhere has £350 less, because that's not very nice if so.

[JarethTheGoblinKing]

I'm imagining some floaty etherial office in the sky somewhere that are baffled by the sudden increase in demand for lottery wins, biscuits and parking spaces

[TotemPole]

And also, if you cosmic order £350, does that mean someone somewhere has £350 less, because that's not very nice if so.

In my case yes, if I get 5 + bonus and win £100,000 on the lottery, at least 100,000 people will lose £1. It's all about balance in the Cosmos.

[boodleboot]

i find the rolling stones sum up my approach to CO/prayer pretty well with 'you can't always get what you want....but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you neeeeeeed do do doooododdododo'

thy will not mine be done and all that. if it is meant for me it won't pass me by....

[SarahStratton]

That man I ordered. He rang last night.

[BertieBotts]

I don't see why believing in the universe helping out means you disregard your own achievements, though. And the thing about the Christian couple who thanked God rather than the guests for their wedding presents is just bonkers and frankly, a bit unchristian. I have religious friends and they wouldn't dream of doing that, they would always thank everyone personally, and then perhaps add on a general thanks to God for the wonderfulness of their friends, or something.

[mashyup]

If you 'ask' for something you will make a subconscious effort to get it. You will only remember the times it 'worked'. I used to have some hippyish friends who lived in Glastonbury, and the people who lived around them were always saying things like 'if you ask for something (usually money) it will 'manifest' itself'. Which I always hated because it was close to right wing 'poor people bring it on themselves' thinking. And also close to all that think positive and your cancer will go away bollocks. I know the power of positive thinking, placebos etc, but my mum was a nurse and she saw plenty of positive thinking people who died anyway.

[Emilizz]

Cosmic ordering has worked for me on the 3 occasions that I tried it. My husband was very sceptical but not any more!!!

I had dd1 name down for a private school that's almost impossible to get into . She was way down the waiting list. Lo & behold she got a place and loves it there.

Two years ago we found a location to build our dream house. It's a cottage on 1 acre with a river running through it. It was an executor sale and we couldn't afford the asking price as it's a really expensive area.We put in a ridiculous offer for 150k below the asking price And eventually after six long weeks, the sellers agreed to sell it to us. We got our planning permission this week.


Lastly, my dd wanted tickets to the Glee concert which had sold out months previously. I jokingly told her to put her order into the universe and I did the same. About 2 weeks later , she was browsing ticketmaster and decided to see if there were any available. Turns out they had added extra seats in the standing area & we got seats 3 rows from the front!! Her friend also had a spare ticket so she got to go twice.


It sounds a bit off the wall but I really believe in it as it has worked for me.

[elastamum]

Not convinced by cosmic ordering, but positive mindset and knowing what you want counts for an awful lot. When my ex left us our life was in turmoil. But it never crossed my mind that I couldnt find a good job and earn enough to keep us in our home. And that I wouldnt put my life back together and find a new partner.

So I got up and got on the train to london for interviews day in day out. Got loads of knock backs and just kept going. Found a great well paid job after a few months, found a lovely new man after a couple of years of dating.

My mum, who died of cancer last year, had this mindset too. She was positive and cheerful right to the end and happy with her life and her family.

BTW There is always a parking space if you are prepared to wait and look

[Vibrant]

I think it's the same thing dressed up with a name Elastamum. You can call it what you like, but it's about positive thinking and your outer world reflecting your inner world.

The thing with the parking though is that it isn't that you don't have to wait for a space to eventually come up, or squeeze into a space - the space will be there for you exactly when you need it with no searching or hassle.

[FreakoidOrganisoid]

SarahStratton, does he tick all the boxes though?

[StarShine82]

Take a look around. The universe has everything we could ever need in great abundance. The difference between having it and not is simply down to attitude.

Quantum physics has proven that when we have positive thoughts our energetic field changes and attracts positive things and people into our lives, but when we have negative thoughts we attract negative things.

The same can be said for cosmic ordering. Don't just ask the universe, believe in it. I have placed many 'orders' in the past and had the desired results but, as others have previously said, I have 'believed' that these things will happen and made actions that allow these things to come to me. It is about setting the attention to acheive something and then asking the universe for it's help.

For me, it is not about being greedy and asking for huge sums of money, it is about being able to live a 'comfortable' life, to be able to make a living doing what I want in life and to raise our children in such a way that they have everything that they need, but at the same time do not grow up to be spoilt little brats!

[NotADudeExactly]

Actually, quantum physics really says nothing of the kind at all. Furthermore, the new age types who say otherwise usually don't have the faintest clue what the hell quantum physics really is.

In actual fact, quantum mechanics is a scientific theory that deals with the wave-particle duality of energy and matter. ("Energy" in the scientific sense, i.e. The capacity to perform work, not some chi kind of thing!).

Quantum theory is notoriously difficult to understand even by scientists - and I challenge any of the woo merchants who use the label as free advertising to explain it to a class of undergraduates in a way that is a) scientifically acceptable and b) leads to each student leaving with a good basic understanding of quantum physics.

If your woo is scientifically valid, feel free to publish in a peer reviewed journal.

[StarShine82]

Quantum physics or no quantum physics...all I know is that it has worked for me! I don't need a degree or a peer reviewed journal to justify it I'm just going from what I have seen and experienced personally...So many sceptics in this world!

[NotADudeExactly]

In your previous post you claimed your theory was proven by quantum physics. I'm 99.999% certain it isn't and that whoever wrote that book doesn't get quantum physics, that's my entire point.

Your woo theory and any personal experience of yours is of no interest to me. My only concern is that legitimate science isn't falsely claimed to endorse yet another new age spleen.

[StarShine82]

I never claimed it to me 'My' theory, simply what I have been taught...I'm too busy enjoying life and the abundance of the universe to sit in a lab and investigate such things myself...Sorry if my first comment offended you, I was under the impression that this was a 'free' forum where people could say what they wish...My bad!

If it doesn't interst you, don't read it..Simple

[NotADudeExactly]

Well, yes, you're of course free to misunderstand quantum theory - just be aware that what you're saying is kind of like claiming that evolution predicts that you'll win the lottery soon, i.e. not scientifically valid under the common understanding of "evolution".

On the other hand, according to the theory of gravity we do indeed attract coins and bank notes and vice versa. Unfortunately the impact of this is negligible.

[TequillaMockingBird]

From Stone Age caveperson to medieval peasant to modern space-ager, we really haven't lost our ability to believe in whacky theories. This seems like a relatively harmless one. Nutzoid but probably not going to hurt people.

[TheVermiciousKnid]

Take a look around. The universe has everything we could ever need in great abundance. The difference between having it and not is simply down to attitude.

Ah, I see. So poor people don't have money because of their attitude? And those with cancer don't have health because of their attitude? And those affected by the famine in East Africa? Yep, their lack of food can of course be blamed on 'bad attitude'.

Of course there are other factors involved in whether you have what you need or not - it's not 'simply down to attitude'.

Sure, you're entitled to your beliefs. But don't state that quantum physics has proven this, that and the other and then get shirty when somebody pulls you up on it!

[EggyAllenPoe]

'SarahStratton, does he tick all the boxes though?'

are you trying to order her a door-to-door chugger?

[Maria33]

I think some Tim Minchin is in order...

Enjoy :o