For thinking it's hilarious that grown adults think they can ask "the cosmos" for anything they desire??

[MuthaInsuperior]

This isn't a thread about a thread but the idea of "cosmic ordering" first became known to me yesterday when I read a thread in relationships. To be fair, I think the people in that thread were just having a laugh with it which is fair enough. But I later mentioned it to my friend (she was saying she wanted nothing more than a new house) so I joked "oh just cosmic order one, it's easy apparently" and she replied "actually I will do" and she was being totally serious. She then went on to say that she already had a cosmic order on the go and was awaiting the £350 she'd asked for to get her car fixed. She's that sure this £350 is going to magically appear that she's booked a weekend away in said car for the week after the money is due to materialise!!
So after that bewildering conversation I went on the internet to find this stuff has a HUGE following and people actually believe they can "order" anything they want from the universe. On one site "orders" were made public and there was one that made me spit my coffee out - "please universe - I want to win the lottery. I had nothing growing up and I want my kids to have everything. I will be generous of course with the money and will make sure it is well spent. Thank you" WTF??

Surely if life was this simple we'd all be walking around blissfully happy?! I don't know whether to find it funny or sad - I mean grown adults thinking to themselves "I want a brand new car - I'll ask the universe for it" and then to sit there waiting for it??

Like I said, nothing wrong in having a laugh, saying this stuff in jest or I suppose even trying it out of desperation (like a non religious people praying) but to think your general desires will come to you in such a way??

[GirlWithALlamaTattoo]

I suppose I "ordered" a man, too. I was attempting online dating with no success at all, talked to my sister about exactly what I was looking for, and within a few weeks I realised that somebody I'd been on casual chatting terms with for a while was exactly what I was after, and was interested!

If you can describe what you want, it's easier to know it when you see it.

[Vibrant]

I was so hoping the friend would turn up with biscuits. And that money is going to come, so get ready with your orders Mutha!

[echt]

Earlier someone said CO was like prayer.

Not the way I remember it; certainly not for material goods, and always with the rider " not my will but thine be done."

[MissBeehiving]

I had some evangelical Christian acquaintances who would helpfully send a round robin with "prayer points" on it so that when you prayed you could ask for their "new family car, preferably blue" or "Kitchenaid" or whatever it was that month.

[inatrance]

Vibrant my parking angels are pretty good too!

I also asked for a man, several years ago now. I wrote a list of everything I wanted and put things that were important to me, (kind, funny, tall etc)..

While I was actively looking for him expectantly - nada. As soon as I thought 'sod it I'm happy by myself' - poof there he was!

It's not as easy as just asking though, it's all about energy.

It's Quantum don't you know!

[HardCheese]

YANBU. It is hilarious that adults think the 'Universe' functions something like Argos.

[TotemPole]

Totem don't you need to order 5 winning numbers, plus the winning bonus ball?

SarahStratton, you're right, I should have been more specific.

[aurynne]

When Pope John Paul was shot, he attributed his survival to the Blessed Virgin of Fatima. I bet the surgeons who operated on him for more than 6 hours found it equally funny.

[SarahStratton]

It does. Doesn't it?

[BustersOfDoom]

I am equally sceptical but gave it a go back in July for a laugh. I asked for extra spending money for our holiday in August. I only went and won £1k on our work social organisation's lottery the first week in August! Ten years I've had those tickets without a sniff of a win!!

Coincidence maybe but I'm going to be asking the Cosmos for stuff again!

[timidviper]

Noel Edmonds makes my flesh crawl! Surely the universe should have more responsibility in deciding what to grant and weigh up Noel's requests against the distress caused to the rest of us.

[brighthair]

I don't use cosmic ordering but I do pray for help with things
From age 5 I prayed every morning and night for a pony. It only took me 6 years
Although I think that was more to do with mum losing the will every time I wrote a christmas list... Dear Santa, I would like a pony and nothing else please

[BertieBotts]

My mum believes in this and got me to do it when I was looking for a place to move to when leaving abusive XP. So just to troll it, I specified a house or flat, within walking distance to town, which has its own entrance (for my cat) and no steps (for the buggy), and a bathroom on the same floor as the living area.

House I'm living in now meets all of those criteria - and weirdly enough, the bathroom on the ground floor thing isn't that common in this area, despite living in a victorian terrace - most people on this street have either extended upstairs to move the bathroom, or converted a bedroom in the 3-bed houses. And it's not like I had loads of choice either, because none of the agencies would accept benefits without a guarantor earning more than anybody I know, and most of the private lets were No DSS as well. It was pretty much the first place that I was accepted at, rather than having the choice between a few.

I think if you're going to put faith in any kind of system like this it's important not to just expect the universe, or God, or whatever, to provide you with something blindly but to accept that the form of "help" the universe provides could be a path to achieve that thing by yourself.

I agree that it's more focusing your mind on what you want, but I think it's an interesting theory. It's said, BTW, that if you are constantly thinking "I want X" then "the universe" will keep you in that state of wanting, because you are focusing on wanting it rather than "X is going to happen" and, similarly, if you are constantly thinking "Ugh, I have no money" then again the universe will keep you in that state - which I actually find really stressful to believe in, so I try not to think about it. I don't want to police my own thoughts. It's exhausting. I've actually ended up with an OCD-like behaviour where I have to think "We are safe. We are safe. The house is safe and I am safe and DS is safe and we are all safe." every night before I can go to sleep, because I worry that if I don't think this, I will slip into the obsessive thoughts I constantly had as a child about house fires and that will somehow cause one. And I don't want to think about the connotations if everyone's thoughts actually had any kind of effect on the physical world.

[MuthaInsuperior]

Bertie you've just reminded me of something. WHen I was about 7 my parents announced that we were moving home. For some wierd reason something I REALLY wanted was steps on the garden path - not the steps that take you into the house you understand - but steps actually in the garden - away from the house. I envisioned it constantly (unbeknown to me that houses like this were extremely rare where we lived!) and one day my mum announced that they'd found a house. My first question was "oh! does it have steps in the garden?!" and she thought for a few seconds and then said "yes, it does actually!". When I went to see the house for the first time it was EXACTLY how I had been imagining.

goes off to imagine a mansion

[hairylights]

Laugh away.

It's worked for me! It's not as simple as just placing an order. It's about positive thinking, belief, affirmation and action.

The way my life has turned around now that I think positively and affirm what I want from life is astonishing.

[HardCheese]

But Hairylights, if you actually acted in order to get whatever it was you wanted, don't you only have your own unaided efforts to thank, rather than 'the Universe'? I think what alarms me about this thread is that it sounds like a lot of people aren't giving themselves credit for working hard and trying and achieving something. Shouldn't many of you be patting yourselves on the back for pulling something off, rather than some mysterious external force that takes requests?

And the examples people have given that the system 'works' are pure coincidence. A lottery win or an unexpected piece of good luck, or a child ending up living in a house with a feature she always dreamed of, are only remembered as 'successes' in the same way that a psychic accidentally hitting on a correct piece of information is remembered, while all her completely irrelevant or incorrect information is forgotten.


MissBeehiving my mind is blown that your evangelical mates sent around letters expecting you to pray that they got a specific colour car or kitchen appliance. 'Dear God in Heaven, we now pray for those who are ill or in need, especially for the Smiths, who would like a Volkswagen Golf, preferably blue'.

[IWantWine]

I am so glad I am not the only one to believe I have a 'parking angel' lol...

I think the knack is in deciding on what you want, and being confident that you will get it, and then being able to sort of forget it while knowing it will arrive...

Someone explained it to me along the lines of choosing a new three piece suite, placing the order with the shop, paying your deposit and then waiting for the shop to deliver it. You wouldnt constantly ring the shop, day after day and ask if your suite was going to be delivered today and that is the approach you need to take with CO....

[IWantWine]

HardCheese I got two things in this way, and I put no effort whatsoever into getting them. They came my way, I was not out looking for them, someone else brought to my attention. So although you make a valid point, it would not be relevant in my case.

[IWantWine]

brought them to my attention....

[IWantWine]

and doesnt it say in the bible... 'ask and it shall be given'?

[tiredemma]

not had time to read all of the posts so forgive me if you have all moved onto something else.

I worked with a woman who believed (quite radically) in CO. I listened intently, nodded appropriately etc etc. When I asked if she could give me an example of who it had worked for, she spoke of Noel Edmonds and his fall in obscurity after doing that programme with Mr Blobby- and then finding fame again years later with Deal or No Deal.

Try as I might, I just couldnt take the idea of CO (or her) seriously after that point.

Although on a positive note- we had a very problematic patient who was assaulting staff on a daily basis. When she was transferred to another hospital, my work colleague stated that she had 'ordered it' through CO. Which was nice.

[OneHandFlapping]

I always thought "cosmic order" was just a phrase, referring to the patterns of the universe.

And it was about cosmic shopping all along. Who'd have thunk?

[TotemPole]

I ordered 5 numbers and the bonus ball.

I got 3 numbers spread across two lines on Lotto. So no win.

And 3 of my Lotto numbers came up on Thunderball, one was the Thunderball as well. So no win.

So how to word it for the weekend so I get it right... hmmm?

[Ariana86]

Re: 'parking angels' - isn't it just common sense that sooner or later any random parking space will be available?
I'm sure that probability, coincidence, statistics, hard work, human kindness & belief in your own abilities all have a lot more influence on life than angels or cosmic ordering.
To me praying & CO are similar to positive thinking - think about or discuss issues & solutions are more likely to be found. As for karma - ok, why do many decent people suffer tragedy & pain?

[TrillianAstra]

Well, they can ask