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Mum A or Mum B

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WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 11:20

Mum A and mum B are both at the school were their dcs attend and are listening to a talk about some changes that are happening within the school. The person giving the talk asks that anyone with a noisy child/baby take them outside. It's difficult to hear in the room at times, as there are quite a few little one's and a slightly mumbling speaker.

Both mums have a 2yo(+) aged child. The 2 children are sort of arguing a bit over who has what chair, one of those silly non arguments that children that age have. One says this is my chair and the other says this is my chair. They are both right as they are talking about their own chairs, toddlers eh!

Mum A is telling her child to shh occassionally but isn't that concerned although her child is pretty loud. Mum B is doing the same although her child is actually being fairly quite but by arguing back (even quietly) is winding up mum A child and making it worse.

So mum B quietly tells her child to stop arguing and to play with his toy. Child quietens. Child of mum A does not but mum not worried about it and is trying to ignore her child.

Every now and then the same thing happens and mum B does something to try to stop the kids arguing (reminding her child to just play quietly and not worry about other child and trying various things) and moves her child further away which helps for a while with her child, but child of A doesn't stop making screeching noises.

Towards end of meeting, mum B reminds child one last time to be quiet so she can hear the important info being given out. Mum A says to mum B "just leave them alone, let them get on with it, they are just kids" (you need to add a "tone of voice" to this of stroppiness and a bit of a dirty look).

Now mum B never spoke to other womans child at all and only ever smiled at the child, definately didn't tell them off or anything.

Who was unreasonable? Mum A who thought they should just get on (apart from a couple of shhhess) with it as after all they are just kids, even though the speaker had asked that they be removed it they were not quiet and everyone was having a bit of trouble hearing over her child?

Or mum B whose child wasn't being that loud but was antagonising the other child and who was trying to defuse the situation between the children by getting her child to play quietly alone for a while?

PS. Was mum A unreasonable for pretty much "telling off" mum B?

(really hoping I got all the As and Bs the right way around)

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WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:20

BalloonSlayer For a moment there I was confused by the sword falling. I thought you had a terrible accident! I was concerned. Glad you're ok!

josie14 I agree on all points.

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cantpooinpeace · 15/09/2011 12:23

Can't believe you cud be bothered or had time to write all that!

DandyLioness · 15/09/2011 12:23

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animula · 15/09/2011 12:23

Hmmm. Actually, I think MmeLindor probably does know what a discussion is.

If this were a discussion we would either a. all have witnessed the event and therefore been able to contribute something genuinely meaningful b. be going into why this matters to you - which is a quite intimate discussion.

Discussing your version of an interaction between "A and B", when you are clearly B, is a bit meaningless unless we're actually going to discuss why you are bothered enough to raise it.

Sorry, but it clearly has got to you in some way (that you're not fully disclosing - and that's OK, no reason at all why you should) or you wouldn't be re-hashing it with strangers who weren't there.

I', not saying you shouldn't post this, or post in AIBU, I'm just pointing out why MmeLindor has a point that "what is really going on" isn't really a straightforward "who is the most reasonable person, A or B?" Because that's kind of unanswerable without more context/knowledge of motivations, etc.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:23

BluddyMoFo Mmm not sure if you are being sarcastic, think we need a sarcasm emoticon. Ok on second read you are. Still must have taken you ages to type out that alphabet, remembering to remove the B and putting a space in between and I truely appreciate the effort Grin [no sarcasm emoticon]

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CaptainNancy · 15/09/2011 12:23

Mum D here-

CaptainNancy · 15/09/2011 12:24

animula- I'm loving your posts on this thread! Grin

NinkyNonker · 15/09/2011 12:24

Apparently anyone who disagrees with the op Mum B does not understand discussions...but personally I think both mothers were being unreasonable for reasons already stated by others.

animula · 15/09/2011 12:25

CaptainNancy has a point - whose child was the hardest winner of the chair row?

animula · 15/09/2011 12:26
manicbmc · 15/09/2011 12:26

Mofo is never sarcastic! She always speaks the truth. Grin

And also what Ninky said. Smile

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:28

animula Bit transparent then was it? I did really try to make it unbiased! Really I did.

Sorry, but it clearly has got to you in some way (that you're not fully disclosing - and that's OK, no reason at all why you should)

Yes you are right, there is slightly more to it. If you are interested I will tell you, if not I won't bother. Problem is that I would likely sound judgemental, I don't think I am that sort of person, I always think each to their own, but there are limits of course.

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JeremyVile · 15/09/2011 12:29

Animula - very well put.

Items to think if someone is certain of their reasonableness they wouldn't feel the need to have it out with a load of internet people.

MrsVoltar · 15/09/2011 12:29

I think Mum A was pretty rude to say that to you Mum B.
Can imagine how annoying it must have been, think if I was MumA I would have left or MumB I would have moved, so the toddlers weren't annoying each other.

JeremyVile · 15/09/2011 12:29

*I tend

DogsBestFriend · 15/09/2011 12:32

You were both very unreasonable and quite rude to the speaker/s and other participants. The clue is in the sentence, "The person giving the talk asks that anyone with a noisy child/baby take them outside."

JeremyVile · 15/09/2011 12:33

But however compelling the backstory, people have replied to your post about this and no matter what has gone on before, as a stand alone incident (bloody he'll, I'm referring to a pair of toddlers babbling at each other as an "incident") most seem to think ywbu.

AndiMac · 15/09/2011 12:34

I've known a few Mum Bs in my time. Along with the child B winding up child A, I bet Mum B was winding up Mum A with her quiet comments that may have been something like, "Don't mind what that other naughty child is doing, you just ignore them and play quietly so Mummy can hear".

If you made absolutely no reference to the other child's behaviour and/or the appropriateness of it and only said to ignore them, I'll take it back. But I have heard comments like that plenty of times.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:37

MrsVoltar Yes I did try to move, well I moved my . . . I mean mum B Grin moved her childs chair so that the children weren't facing each other, but A carried on screaching.

I was a bit trapped in a corner and thought that if I moved then A might take it as a personal thing. If I had told her why I was moving then I would have caused a discruption by talking. If I had moved that would have caused a disruption. Felt a bit stuck between rock etc. If I had left I thought that people would wonder where the feck I was going seeing as my child wasn't being noisy and a lot of babies/children were being much noisier. I also had an important question to raise (that's another thread!)

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WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:39

AndiMac "Don't mind what that other naughty child is doing, you just ignore them and play quietly so Mummy can hear".

That made me laugh! No I don't say things like that at all. Isn't that what they call passive aggressive?

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ebbandflow · 15/09/2011 12:40

It just sounds like mum A and mum B don't get on, nothing really to do with this minor situation. Most people wouldn't be bothered with a bit of noise during a school presentation.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:43

Well I was actually asking animula if she wanted to hear it, rather then you jeremy but if I do (not convinced I can be bothered as really fancy going for a cup of tea before starting the hoovering, uergh) you can always put your hands over your ears (or eyes) and go lalalalalalalala!

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CaptainNancy · 15/09/2011 12:46

This is fantastic! Please, please do tell us animula the back story Smile

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:51

ebbandflow We don't really know each other well enough to not get on, although she has shocked me a few times. I would expect for there to be a bit of noise during school things as well. It's not great but comes with the territory a bit. I think a decent rule is that if they don't quieten down after x many seconds you should leave. It's a shame to miss things but you have to think of other people. Was very prepared to have to do that but like I said mine was only whispering and I was actually impressed.

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WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 15/09/2011 12:52

CaptainNancy Are you being sarcastic? We really do need a sarcasm emoticon on MN as I can never read it right.

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