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to think that if 9/11 had happened anywhere else we wouldn't be remembering it ten years on?

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wannaBe · 10/09/2011 18:06

... or probably even one year on.

I am not taking away from how horrific it was for all who were directly affected.

But if it had been anywhere but America the world would have moved on and we wouldn't be facing wall-to-wall coverage ten years on. Even if it had been the UK only the UK would be remembering.

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scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:46

again, why?

the number of lives lost.

the way it unfolded... on television.... with the world watchin. we all remember where we were.

the nationalties lost.

the firemen lost trying to save lives for weeks on end.

the terrorism involved!

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:47

the sight of those planes crashing the towers when you knew it was no longer an accident.

the people jumping from the windows.

the collapse of the towers.

lives lost in surrounding buildings from the towers collasping.

need i go on?

HowlingBitch · 10/09/2011 18:47

I think the fact that there had been another terrorist threat had alot to do with the amount of coverage also.

I think we were all afraid yesterday. I certainly felt like I was holding my breath.

SansaLannister · 10/09/2011 18:47

I do. The comment about 'most Americans don't know about 7/7' or 'if this happened in London it wouldn't be the same rememberance'.

I guess some sick, sad people really have too much time on their hands.

Tchootnika · 10/09/2011 18:47

Her 'point' is another sneer at America thread, this time using the murders of nearly 3000 people to do this.

Paranoid, much, Sansa?
In what way is this a sneer at America thread? What a very, very skewed interpretation of OP's initial question.

wannaBe · 10/09/2011 18:48

biwi, but one could say then that it was what followed on that makes this such a memorable event. Following 9/11 we went into Iraq/Afghanistan, and all that goes with that. So if it had happened somewhere else, the after-events might not have been the same. Would the world still have remembered in the same way? I still don't think so.

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KingofHighVis · 10/09/2011 18:48

yanbu, but if it hadn't happened inn the US then it wouldn't have had the same impact in the first place.

I think this article makes some interesting points about the US attitude to terrorism. chomsky.info/articles/20110906.htm

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 10/09/2011 18:48

I think if London had been the target it would definitely be remembered in the same way. Thing is, we remember because America seems 'like us'. I'm not sure that the entire world is remembering 9/11 in the same way. Is China? Korea? Pakistan? I haven't a clue. I assume we mark the date because it changed western foreign policy and frankly, scared the absolute crap out of most of us.

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:49

i dont think its a sneer. just cant comprehend why you feel .... i dunno .... again, jealous or something???

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:50

especially when you say if it happened in london no one would remember

Solo · 10/09/2011 18:50

Yes, YABU :(

I think of 9/11 often, even though I have no real connections with the USA.

I thank God that it wasn't me or mine, but I know that it was someone elses 'me and mine.' Many many families were and still are affected by this tragedy. The world should not forget it. I never will.

Tchootnika · 10/09/2011 18:50

I think you have finally answered the question, Chickens!

Northey · 10/09/2011 18:50

I don't pick up any feeling of jealousy, scuzy. What is it that wannabe has said that makes you think that she is?

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:51

also the no one effect ... troops losing their lives!

the events of 9/11 shook the world in one way or another.

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:52

Northey i cant find a better word but the sentiment that if it happened in london it wouldnt have been remember world wide kinda makes me think that. i must be thick or something. i just dont get it.

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:52
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Tchootnika · 10/09/2011 18:53

... and are the 7/7 bombings 'remember[ed] world wide'?
Or are you just being very self-aware today, scuzy?

HowlingBitch · 10/09/2011 18:54

I was trying to think of a way to say that Chickens, But I couldn't word it in a way that didn't sound like "other country's don't care as much as we do.

HowlingBitch · 10/09/2011 18:54

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Secretpeter · 10/09/2011 18:54

I rarely post on mumsnet. But you asked if you were BU and the answer is, of course you are.
There is no way that an event like 9/11 in which 3000 people were murdered at one time, would not be remembered the world round. Especially in countries with access to the internet/tv. Mainly because those same countries would have seen the events actually unfolding, as it happened.
As an example, I guarantee the recent tragic events in Norway will be mentioned in our news broadcasts, 10 years from now.

ajandjjmum · 10/09/2011 18:57

OP - the question does seem to be a bit of an invitation to have a go at the USA.

Northey · 10/09/2011 18:57

Scuzy, she's not complaining about it. She's asking why.

Bennifer · 10/09/2011 18:58

YABU. 9/11 (or 11th of September as I like to think of it) not only was a horrifying terrorist attack that killed 3000 people of many different nationalities, it is probably the defining news event of the 21st century (like the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, the Russian Revolution, WW2, and the fall of the Berlin Wall were in the 20th), which has led so far to a decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As much as the 2004 tsunami was tragic, it didn't lead to a decade of war

Badgercub · 10/09/2011 18:58

I think a lot of people have missed the OP's point.

How many people commemorate the anniversary of the Rwandan genocide? Do you even know the date?

I often hear parents saying that 9/11 made them question "what kind of world they were bringing their children into", well...the same world it has always been.

There have always been horrific murders and genocides in one part of the world, but we have a tendency to dismiss them unless they have a direct effect on our lives.

That being said, perhaps the anniversary of 9/11 isn't the best time to be talking about it. Respect to the families and friends of those who died.

wannaBe · 10/09/2011 18:58

scuzy, have I said the events of 9/11 didn't shake the world? Have I said it shouldn't be commemorated? The 7/7 bombings will of course not be commemorated in the same way worldwide because only 53 died as opposed to 3000.

You clearly have no grasp of the meaning of the word jealousy.

The bali bombings are not remembered worldwide every year. The numerous IRA bombings are not remembered worldwide. The bomb in Egypt a few years ago is not remembered.

The spanish train bombings are not remembered.

Of course individuals remember these things especially if they remember where they were at the time.

In truth if we remembered every atrocity the news would be more morbid than it already is.

And of course it is different to natural disasters, although I do wonder whether the fact that many western tourists were caught up in the tsunami makes a differents as to the coverage.

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