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to think that if 9/11 had happened anywhere else we wouldn't be remembering it ten years on?

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wannaBe · 10/09/2011 18:06

... or probably even one year on.

I am not taking away from how horrific it was for all who were directly affected.

But if it had been anywhere but America the world would have moved on and we wouldn't be facing wall-to-wall coverage ten years on. Even if it had been the UK only the UK would be remembering.

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KAZAMM · 10/09/2011 18:19

It didn't just affect America though did it? There were all different nationalities in the world trade centres and the planes. Plus the years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq. I think it's no exaggeration to say it was the day the world changed which is how it was reported at the time.

wannaBe · 10/09/2011 18:19

and at no point have I said that it wasn't anything other than a horrific event.

What I am saying is that from a media perspective, from a news perspective, it wouldn't be commemorated on that scale. Yes of course it would be commemorated in the country where it happened, but not internationally.

And fwiw most americans have never heard of the 7/7 bombings.

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piratecat · 10/09/2011 18:19

i think i know where you are coming from. If it had happened here I doubt very much the USA would be covering it like we are here.

It's everything that it's led to tho isn't it, ten years of war on Terror, the huge capacity America has to 'lead'.

GreenEyesandNiceHam · 10/09/2011 18:20

But the September 11th atrocities affected iconic buildings, recognised all over the world, and in doing so sent out a statement that was heard all over the world. It's not 'just' the murders of thousands of innocent people, it changed the way we saw the world- that's also why it remains a massive event, to be commemorated. IMO of course

ihatecbeebies · 10/09/2011 18:20

The OP isn't saying the people who sadly died in the 911 attacks don't deserve to be remembered, but what I gathered from the OP is that if it happened in a different country it wouldn't have as much coverage as it has had 10 years on. I doubt that the tsunami's and quake that have happened this year will be talked about to the same degree in ten years time as 911 attacks has.

FredBare · 10/09/2011 18:21

jesus OP you sound almost jealous ......

CogitoErgoSometimes · 10/09/2011 18:21

I think you have no sense of history or context to reach that conclusion. NYC is a cosmopolitan 'world city', the Trade Center was a landmark, the whole thing happened on live TV in front of a global audience and people from many, many countries died in those attacks.

Mitmoo · 10/09/2011 18:21

I will never forget where I was, the horror of seeing those people jumping from windows to escape the fire.

You are not only BU you have a heart of stone. It's nothing to do with being an American tragedy it was a tragedy against human kind.

bumbleymummy · 10/09/2011 18:22

I know what you mean wannabe - I agree that it is probably for the reasons northey mentioned.

SansaLannister · 10/09/2011 18:22

'And fwiw most americans have never heard of the 7/7 bombings.'

You've polled all 350+m of them and found that to be true?

What a load of bollocks.

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:22

so whats your gripe? that its more televised than other tradegies??
i reported this thread btw think its in very bad taste and i feel would upset anyone (and i bet there are many) posters who may have lost loved ones in 9/11.

what about Diane? she was ONE person however it was a tragedy and many programmes were on tv on her anniversary.

wannaBe · 10/09/2011 18:23

"The 2004 Bali memorial was a nine day event btw ," yes, in Bali. Do we commemorate the Bali bombings here? no, no more than a passing mention on the news perhaps.

And at no point have I said that 9/11 shouldn't be commemorated. What I am saying is that if the same had happened anywhere else, the world wouldn't collectively be remembering it in the same way.

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ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 10/09/2011 18:24

Hmm. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't find it in the least bit strange that we, in the UK, would commemorate 9/11. The british and american cultures are closely linked, we are close political allies etc. The target was on American soil, but it was an attack on the western way of life of which we are part. It felt personal. And everything that has happened since with regards to the war on terror has involved our armed forces. So I can't really see it as just America's event, iyswim. The target could just as easily have been London.

BeaOnSea · 10/09/2011 18:24

The tsunami's and quakes were tragic but natural disasters - not murder.

I do understand the point the OP is making about the coverage though.

SansaLannister · 10/09/2011 18:25

Then turn off your TV and radio.

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:25

so the amercians should be the only ones to commemorate???

seriously, again what is your gripe? are you jealous? me thinks its more boredom and suggest you tackle your wardrobe or do some laundry to occupy your idle hands.

ThePrincessRoyalFiggyrolls · 10/09/2011 18:25

Perpetuated against America - what solely? Yup of course it was, the hint is in the name World Trade Center it was a global meeting point, head offices for companies from all over the globe in an area that is known for its global markets. There was and still is nowhere quite like it on earth, quite frankly I am suprised that more people weren't lost on that day although it looks like we are losing more to illness caused by this terrible terrible act.

It wasn't just perpetuated against America, it was a war on the World although by hitting these huge iconic buildings they made sure that it would have this impact. 7/7 has it for us but it was minor leag

bumbleymummy · 10/09/2011 18:25

Wannabe hasn't said anywhere that it doesn't DESERVE to be remembered for those who seem to be taking it that way.

I do think that the fact they were iconic buildings in New York - a city most people have seen on tv at least and many have visited/would like to visit has a lot to do with it.

heinztomatosoup · 10/09/2011 18:26

Actually it's precisely because of where it was, the twin towers of NY, some might say a symbol of the free world, that it was so shocking (and sad) at the time, and continues to be shocking (and sad), and will be commemorated accordingly. YABU

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:27

of course it is bumbleymummy. i remember where i was and many of my friends were in shock as they had just come back from there over the summer and visited the twin towers. it has more impact when you have visited there.

still doesnt mean it shouldnt be televised. its a way to teach our kids who were probably not born or only little ones about it. i know lots of kids here who have homework and reports to do on it. its part of history!!

ThePrincessRoyalFiggyrolls · 10/09/2011 18:28

oops

minor league in the scale of the global terrorism "achievements" they caused panic throughout London but really the devices were small and shocking not like 9/11. (Although no less devastating to this country Sad)

ThePosieParker · 10/09/2011 18:28

Rubbish, we still remember the Tsunamis and natural disasters. But this was a terrorist attack....one attack that killed 3000 people.

We also remember Hiroshima....and that was a fair few more years than 10.

LeBOF · 10/09/2011 18:28

It also changed world politics and drew the US into a new phase of policy, the War On Terror etc. So it was a pretty fundamental milestone in recent history, beyond the impact of individual families' grief.

troisgarcons · 10/09/2011 18:28

Factor in our television buys in so much from the USA - most programmes are American especially on Sky. I've lost count of the amount of JFK or Moon Landing docus/conspiracy busters I've suffered over the years. Also of course the sheer volume of people in the locality with mobile phones or cameras make for fresh footage in every docu. Thats not going to happen in dirt poor countries.

Therefore the country of programming origin happens to be the country where 9/11 occurred, therefore their programming will centre round their public needs and wants and interests. The programmers just sell it on to other countries - or pipe through Sky.

scuzy · 10/09/2011 18:29

good point re hiroshima