to think that if 9/11 had happened anywhere else we wouldn't be remembering it ten years on?

[wannaBe]

... or probably even one year on.

I am not taking away from how horrific it was for all who were directly affected.

But if it had been anywhere but America the world would have moved on and we wouldn't be facing wall-to-wall coverage ten years on. Even if it had been the UK only the UK would be remembering.

I understand your point, and I think a lot of people are wilfully missing it. But I think you are vastly underplaying the political impact of the event and the fact that it has marked a sea-change in world affairs. That is why it is given more prominence over other tragedies or natural disasters, not because of American narcissism, or whatever else you are implying.

Perpertrated against America my ass, they done it themselves.

oh FabbyChic now is not the time for conspiracy theories.

Yabu and a total twat

Have reported this thread in poor taste. Dis-respectful to them families remembering the tragedy they are living through again this weekend!

"I understand your point, and I think a lot of people are wilfully missing it."

Yeah, I don't think this discussion is going to go anywhere.

Mind those giant lizards Fabby. They'll be coming for you next.

Atrocities happen all over the world all the bloody time. The OP has stated a fact. It doesn't take ANYTHING away from 9/11 or the people who've suffered, died and who are dying because of it. Huge amounts of people die evey day in this world and we barely blink yet we're outraged if our phone company overcharges us. We simply cannot take on board the horrors that happen all the time and most of us witnessed 9/11 as was happening but it doesn't change the fact that no other terror attack has ever had this much coverage. If it happened somewhere in the Middle East we would not be commemorating it the way we are. Stating a few uncomfortable facts doesn't make it "Yank bashing" nor does it demean what happened 10 years ago.

Way more innocent civilians have died as a result of the wars that followed 9/11 - sorry about that old bean, casualties of war dont ya know?

Mind you, some people could find a fight in an empty room.

Yabu and a bit dense.

9/11 didn't just kill Americans. The event involved lots of nations and affected many people in many different ways.

It's not that it happened in America, it's the way it was carried out andtheway it was promoted as a huge success by it's perpetrators.

4 of my colleagues died in 9/11. Three of those were from other nations than America.

You do realise OP has stated 7 times that she is not saying she thinks 9/11 should not be remembered. Yet your all still Banging on at her. READ loseersss

FabbyChic - I usually read what you write, but your "they done it themselves" (sic) is on the same level as Elvis went to the Moon. You watch too much of youtube shite and do not do enough thinking for yourself.

OP
YUB totally U...

The OP is in no way diminishing individuals' grief- posters insisting it is have reacted in a knee-jerk fashion. It's a serious point: why aren't other tragedies of similar or larger casualty count similarly referred back to in the global media?

I think the reason is the event's political and historic importance, and I accept that the televisual aspect of it increased it's impact in people's memories.

What I don't believe anybody to be saying is that the deaths of those people are anything less than awful.

If almost 3000 people of different nationalities were killed in the same way in the UK it would be covered identically.

Oh for fucks sake, you've reported this thread. Really?
If this gets deleted I despair of mumsnet because this is intelligent debate, nothing more.
I've just come of the thread about how MN are deleting every slightly contentious thread.
After this post I expect to disappear into the virtual stratosphere.
Byebye

LadyBeagleEyes if you READ the thread you would see i apologised and have engaged in the debate.

trying reading the thread instead of scanning first page before ye come in here with yer knickers on fire!

I take it you don't know of anyone who died then!! YABU.

As an older member of MN I do remember Aberfan which was a dreadful event.

I think the reason why we are seeing so much about 9/11 is down to the fact that a for a lot of people born shortly after WW2 it seemed that WW3 was about to break out and I was very scared that my 2 DSs who were 27 and 24 at the time would be called up to fight. Although there has been conflict ever since at least we have not had a World War which would have meant even more young men and women being called up to fight.

It was on such a huge scale and being televised live, not some distant event you read about in the paper. Of course it should be remembered but I wonder why more isn't made about all the civilians that have died in the wars caused by it - they seem to have been forgotten and very few people could even say how many casualties there have been - me included.

People are obviously not bothering to read any of the thread before commenting. Shame really.

Ther'd be no calling up of anybody if ww3 were to break out. It'd be nukes and we'd all be gonners.

There are still a few determined to miss the point, scuzy, though. If we can't have a discussion ten years later about how relative tragedies are covered in the media without hysterical accusations of insensitivity, then we will never be able to analyse any event in which people lost their lives. Which is clearly ridiculous.

I know, badgercub. Pity, because there are some interesting and thoughtful posts here and there.

Scuzy my post wasn't to you, it was to draculasmum who said she intended to report the thread.

Yes it's due to symbolism - free world, trade, international. All things that should keep us safer. And terrible spectacle and shock of the visual.

And that it's America. New York, one of the most loved cities.

So yes it's all tied together.