to feel right sorry for these babby's with unique names?

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They'll be respelling for there whole life.

Amieeleigh.

Maizii-Faii.

Demilea.

Reah-Neavah.

Jay-dee.

Rylee.

Maisy-Maee.

Ezmai.

Courney-Alice.

Izaeyah.

Jorgea.

Jerzey.

Daisey-Jai.

Dolci'Lou.

Sorry if these are any of normal spellings but I don't recognize them.

'Fearne' is much nicer than 'Fern' I think. One's a girl, ones a plant IYSWIM

I am not keen on mad spellings of names.

However I do not accept the argument about academia is a good one.

If someone who works in a university dismisses a child based on their name, that someone should not be in post. They simply cannot be trusted to do their job properly.

This week hundeds of kids round here will be starting college. Many of them will be Kaidies and Shantelles and Diondras.
Should we tell them not to bother because some uptight arse at Cambridge will chuck their application in the bin?

Should we bollocks.

What we should do is make sure that the people with the power are not such bigoted idiots.

I am biased. I have Jaidon. Named by his birth mother. If he had been adopted by someone else they may well have changed his name to avoid being embarrassed by the chavvines of it (o! the horror).

It is his name and an important part of his personal identity. If I start changing that to appease the arses maybe I should start bleaching his skin too?

Its fine not to like a name. Its fine to have a little giggle to yourself. Its not fine for people with power to decide that a person is unworthy because they are called Cheriiish with three is.

So there.

Yes, you pronounce it fern. I have to spell it to people, people write cards to fern I don't mind I just wish we had chose the more common spelling, as kinda feel like we have become celeb wannabes !!

WilsonFrickett - that is my dp argument precisely, I see his point but people often asked if I named her after fearne cotton, which she isn't, although having said that IMO there are a lot worse celebs to be named after iyswim.

Poor Demilea will get nicknamed Dairylea at school.

Is the original poster a closet brummie do we think?

babby's :o

the word babby always reminds me of Benny from Crossroads

#showingmyage

Absolutely agree with thefirstMrsDeVere

But people called Catherine (Kathryn/Katharine etc etc), Isobel (Isobelle/Isabel/etc etc) and Finlay/Finley and so on will have to spend their lives spelling out their names. At least having a yooneek name is a bit more interesting and will make it easier to get yourself a domain name or good email address. :)

I love "babby" btw. Babbies babbies lovely babbies! :o

I've only got to page 2 - it seems I've ruffled a few feathers. Firstly, I've been to uni twice to study different subjects for my undergrad and postgrad. I have never come across anyone who has a name similiar to the names mentioned above!! I am sorry, but maybe there are a few people out there with "ghetto" names who are highly academic, but then a majority are 3rd or 4th generation benefit takers.

It's not even council estate dwellers - I had friends at uni from estates, but they had conservative names like Mary, Jane etc...

The point is, these names aren't unusual. They have been spelled incorrectly and this makes a mockery out of the English language and the name. This name stereotyping doesn't just exist here in the UK. In Germany you have the equivalent to chavs who keep french sounding names for their children, who aren't very academic either.

Maybe the social demographics are changing, but I still believe that currently, a MAJORITY of children with names spelled the way they have above are not high academic achievers due to their family background. Also, why does Oxford or Cambridge have to be mentioned in every thread that is related to academia?

That's my opinion.

I am not sure that posters are saying that it is right to make assumptions based on a name - but it is what happens. And if the name gave you an impression of someone and the first couple of minutes (or say an interview) didn't contradict that impression then the impression will last.
It's not just whether the person is "common" or race but nationality age etc. It is actually really disconcerting to meet someone who doesn't match their name, Also if a name gives you an impression of someone you almost look for something to confirm it - i've interviewed people for example with very welsh names and have been convinced that they have a welsh accent -when they have no welsh connection.

Also I think there is a difference between an unusual name, an unusual spelling of a name and a madeup spelling

ds3 has a rare (although when i prompt people to remember his famous namesake not unknown name)

It shares a name with a thing that is spelled differently and

oh forget it: he's called Stirling
like Moss

not like Sterling

everybody spells it the wrong way but then ds1's Godmother spells his name, Samuel, Samule. Like the donkey descendant.

We took a risk with ds2's name and my dad said he'd be called X Y and Z and hate it.

He's almost 11, adores the shortening of Stirl that he gets, and thinks his name is 'way cool'.

peachy funny ...that was going to be DS8's name (its a family name) I love it!

My children do have (I suppose to some) unusual names...but with regular spellings. I don't have a problem with unusual names (obviously) or old fashioned spellings ...I don't like 'creative' spellings that look very strange written down. Where I live it is very common to do it (US)

We get a lot of teh creative spelling locally but whilst it can be confusing I can understand I think.

In my PE group of 13, 8 were called Claire. 8! I imagine that massively increases the likelihood of choosing a new spelling / hyphen / etc.

We've only encountered two otehr Stirlings: when teh MW was here days after his birth there was on one Tricia (! not a positive image), and about 4 weeks after tehre was a birth announcement for a child with teh name locally; as DS2's name was in the apper I doubt it wasn't as a result. the coincidence would be huge.

but the key is he likes it, and also that he has a very boring (but nice) middle name and we said if he ever wants he is free to use that.

As these unusual names are fairly modern why is it a suprise that they are not often seen in high powered jobs or in the hallowed halls of academia (whats so bloody great about academia anyway?)

It takes the working classes longer to work their way up and yes these names are working class. The middle and upper classes have their own brand of unusual names which probably look idiotic to Chalanqua's mother. I mean why would anyone want to call their child Maudy Iris? I happen to like those names but to a lot of people they mean - old lady.

I live in an area that has a tiny echelon of middle classness. It may as well be in a different borough for all we see of it where I am. I am thinking of the kids names that are popular.
Charlie
Alfie
Sydny
Chelsea
Paris
Olivia
Sophie
Connor
Callum
Kerian

Some of those names were the middle class favs not so long ago. Now the chavs have got hold of them they turn their noses up.

How long before
Fin
Freya
Ava
Iris
Flora
Hugo
Milo

etc fall out of favour?

Its snobbery. Simple. I work with children. How utterly horrified would you be if I dreaded working with any child called Harriet because 'you just know what Harriets are like'

But if I said 'not another Jordaaan. I just know he is going to be a pita' there would be a few disenting voices amoung the chorus of 'oh yes my SIL is a teacher and she says Jordaans are always horrible'

'the majority are third or fourth generation benefit takers' Really? You know this how?

I watch documentaries, that's how!

OMG I take back everything I ever said.

You watch documentaries.

How could I possibly fault that kind of research?

MrBlooms Are you the same person I seen on a thread earlier saying how you wouldn't want an Air Hostess to look spotty or have cold sores and defending women being asked wear make up and heels to work?

ThefirstMrsDeVere, just wanted to say i couldn't agree more with everything you wrote.

Thefirstmrsd, I think it is a bit more complicated than simple snobbery against the working classes, although I agree the brunt of opprobrium heads their way.

I am wary of names because it is a way of labelling your child which has an impact on how others see him or her. And that cuts both ways.

I am going to make assumptions about parents who call their children Araminta and Tarquin in the same way I make assumptions about parents who call their children 'Madisyn' and 'koby'.

And you know what? 99% of the time my assumptions bear fruit. That is why it's dangerous and I just ask that parents be a little more thoughtful.

And this middle class habit of calling little girls Milly Mollie Flopsy kitten type names is just as horrible as giving children weird 'unique' spellings of particular names.

Based on a small academic sample I would say that you are most likely to succeed academically if you are called Paul, Peter, Stephen, James or Andrew. We have at last two of each in my dept and most are professors.

Hmmm, there is something else those names have in common but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Anyway MrsDV is right: 'If someone who works in a university dismisses a child based on their name, that someone should not be in post. They simply cannot be trusted to do their job properly.'

FWIW we review application forms blind and we mark papers blind. If you are called Amieeleigh please don't worry about not being wanted at uni on that basis.

I'm not wildly keen on wacky spellings, but the argument that they shouldn't be used in case other people are twats is a lousy one. People should try not to be twats.

"I'm not wildly keen on wacky spellings, but the argument that they shouldn't be used in case other people are twats is a lousy one. People should try not to be twats."

Exactly!

Sorry....................my post wasn't about Northern as a negative, I just hate it when you can hear an accent in people's posts....ANY accent, it reads more like a script and just annoys me. I would have said the same if the post had read:

Alright Geez, well shu' up but my mate right loves a bloody awful name, I tell ya.

Of course people should try not to be twats! But why burden your child with some god awful name when you don't have to? If it has to be Madison then let it be Madison, NOT 'Madysin'.

Children are going to grow up to be adults. They are not some cutesy life style accessory or some extension of your own hopes and dreams.

The bottom line should be - if you are naming your child because you want to say something about YOU then be careful. There are enough hurdles to jump without always having to be spelling/explaining your name to others.