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to feel right sorry for these babby's with unique names?

242 replies

Nowithadoublei · 05/09/2011 22:57

They'll be respelling for there whole life.

Amieeleigh.

Maizii-Faii.

Demilea.

Reah-Neavah.

Jay-dee.

Rylee.

Maisy-Maee.

Ezmai.

Courney-Alice.

Izaeyah.

Jorgea.

Jerzey.

Daisey-Jai.

Dolci'Lou.

Sorry if these are any of normal spellings but I don't recognize them.

OP posts:
thatsenough · 06/09/2011 09:09

Good point VeronicaCake -For the last interview panel I sat on we were sent copies of applications in advance with names and addresses missing so we could may a fair opinion in advance - We did however employ someone with a boringly normal name (he was the best person for the job).

FellatioNelson · 06/09/2011 09:11

I read that in Freakonomics as well, and it is very true I think. I doubt it's motivated my racism, although many of the names that make people go Hmm do tend to be 'black' names. I think it is motivated by preconceptions about class. Ask any teacher who gets to see a list of her pupils for the next academic year and ask her if she will have preconceptions about each child's behaviour, academic ability, socio-economic status, and the quality/style of parenting they may have been exposed to. I can tell you now, the answer will be 'yes'.

GloriaVanderbilt · 06/09/2011 09:11

I did spell it with two zeds. Or are you talking to Andrew thing?

Spero · 06/09/2011 09:13

VeronicaCake, I think it is about racism and class prejudice.

I hope I am not so shallow to judge people solely on their odd name, but say I had to plough through 300 application forms, I might not be so keen on picking out the very weird names, I would find it off putting.

This might be horrible and regrettable but it happens and I think parents ought to at least think about it.

The really sad thing is that the parents in Freakonomics thought they were giving their child the gift of a unique name, when all they were doing was make it easier for others to label them in advance.

It is also depressing going through papers for care proceedings. I rarely see a Hugo or a Sophie but I see a fair few Jett-Lis and Armani-levis.

DartsRus · 06/09/2011 09:13

I have an unusual name, although it's becoming more popular now. So far I've not been judged on it, although there was an incident when I was at school where the deputy head picked on me because of my name. I also have an uncommon surname, and as I am now job hunting, I hope my name doesn't affect that too much.

Having written that, I must say that my dd has a normal name, but I find it odd the number of people that misspell it!

Whatmeworry · 06/09/2011 09:13

Ask any teacher who gets to see a list of her pupils for the next academic year and ask her if she will have preconceptions about each child's behaviour, academic ability, socio-economic status, and the quality/style of parenting they may have been exposed to. I can tell you now, the answer will be 'yes'

And the inconvenient truth is that she will probably be quite accurate.

FellatioNelson · 06/09/2011 09:14

SM you are right of course - they had nothing to do with the choice of their own name, but their parents did, and their parents will be largely responsible for shaping the kind of person the job candidate is. If the first impression of the name is negative it doesn't bode well for everything else that follows. Unfair, maybe, but a fact of life.

SoupDragon · 06/09/2011 09:15

Except the names in the OP are not "unusual" they are made up spellings of ordinary names.

DoMeDon · 06/09/2011 09:17

YANBU - some parents are idiots

SoupDragon · 06/09/2011 09:20

"I think people are extremely ignorant if they judge someone solely on the basis that they have an unusual name."

I slightly disagree with this actually. People are extremely ignorant if they judge someone on their name and then do not allow themselves to reform that judgement on meeting or dealing with the person. It is perfectly acceptable to make an initial personal opinion based on the information to hand provided you do not allow that to cloud how you deal with and form later opinions of a person.

My opinions of people change all the time based on experience.

marriedinwhite · 06/09/2011 09:22

I was saddled with a Shakespearian monstrosity - an OK name as an adult but horrid for a child. Our DC are the equivalent of Tom and Emma.

SchrodingersMew · 06/09/2011 09:23

DoMeDon I love how you missed out any kind of punctuation or use of capital letters in your post. Quite ironic.

Fellatio I suppose you are right, that in some instances the parents who choose weird spellings and names are well, a bit shall I say, common?

But, on the other side of it, there are plenty of junkies and arsehole parents around here who name their kids very simple names like Lisa or Mark.

SchrodingersMew · 06/09/2011 09:25

SoupDragon I was talking more about the sort of situations where people cannot get jobs as employers wont look past their CV because they see a strange name and judge.

DoMeDon · 06/09/2011 09:29

It is a net chat borad - get a grip. I will never be traipsing over to pedants corner for a smirk at grammar/spelling. Where is the irony you speak of? Do you think I'm an idiot for not giving a quick chat response much pause and consideration? Do one.

I think some parents are idiotic not to consider their choice of name - it goes with the child for life and they are, wrongly imo, judged on it. To call a child Aaaaaiiimmmmeeee in stead of Amy, for example, would say to me the parent was a bit of a knobber.

Your prejudice shows though. FWIW I have a less common, but really lovely, name - not unusual world wide but not heard often.

flack · 06/09/2011 09:31

My dad works in the court system in the USA, many of his customers have, er, unconventional names. It drives him a bit batty when he asks "How do you spell that?" and they say "Oh, the usual way"... and then they argue with him, maybe not even willing to spell it out, insisting that theirs is the only usual way to spell Lehteesha or whatever.

My dad has a weird variant spelling of a boring name himself, so it's not like he judges creative spelling, just doesn't want to waste time arguing about it in a criminal court.

SchrodingersMew · 06/09/2011 09:34

I normally don't give a shit what others spelling is like and have been one of the first to pull people on bullying other posters for their spelling and grammar on here.

Actually I apologize for being a bitch there.

And FWIW, had I grown up with my birth Mother I probably would be an idiot but I didn't, the only imprint she has on my life is that she named me, so it would piss me off and quite rightly so if I was to be refused a job or if an employer refused to even look at my CV simply because I have a stupid name.

RedRubyBlue · 06/09/2011 09:36

I do vaguely remember in the 1970's an idea being mooted by exam boards that examinees would be assigned a number rather then putting their name down on the examination paper.

A study had shown that students with certain names were being marked down for no obvious reason.

Psammead · 06/09/2011 09:39

I am a bit 'meh' about the research showing bias towards traditional names with normal spellings. Creative names are a relatively new part of British naming fashion. Do the study again in another ten years when unique names make up a higher percentage of young adult nomenclature and I think the results will be quite different.

DoMeDon · 06/09/2011 09:43

Thanks - apologies for getting bitchy back (it's like a love in now!)

I agree with you it is unfair to judge the child on the name. I think being a decent parent starts before you have a child - being sensible enough to make good decisions (like name) are part of that to me.

ViviPru · 06/09/2011 09:44

It works the other way too - I have quite a rah di da Jemima-type name although I'm from a pretty average background. I've felt thankful for it on occasion when I've found myself in more hoity toity circles - clearly annunciating the unabbreviated version of it in faux plummy tones and having a good snigger about it after.

I've just notice that I've subconsciously done the same thing here with my moniker - how funny! This relates to that thread a few days ago discussing judging MNtters on their usernames...

I can't help but get a preconception when I read 'babby's' coupled with an ordinary plural gatecrashed with an unwelcome apostrophe. We judge - we're human.

SchrodingersMew · 06/09/2011 09:47

DoMeDon YW and thanks. :)

I guess I am just a bit bitter as I bloody hate my name! No one ever gets it right and when it's looked at on paper people always call me "Chantelle". Angry I have no idea why either, unless all these people are blind or just too lazy to properly read a single name.

SmethwickBelle · 06/09/2011 09:48

Wasn't there a thread about the name "a-a" which was pronounced "adasha" - the dash was the hyphen. I thought it was genius and opened up a whole new world of punctuated names, like on Star Trek.

I quite like Dolci'Lou and when I was younger I knew a quite aristocratic girl called Jorjea.

SchrodingersMew · 06/09/2011 09:51

ViviPru I don't think that is unfair though as that is the persons own choice of username.

And FWIW I'd be very intrigued to know what others first impressions of me and my username are.

kenobi · 06/09/2011 09:51

I worked with a professional woman (so presumably uni educated) called
N-a

Any guesses as to how it was pronounced? Grin

DooLallyDally · 06/09/2011 09:55

My name is now very very common with young children but when I was growing up I was the only person I knew with that name and for the best part of 11 years I was teased for it.
Now I cant walk down the street without hearing it.

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