to be considering past life regression?

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I love messing about in boats off UK coasts or the eastern seaboard of the US and in the Med.

HOWEVER, merely the names 'South China Sea' and 'Cape Horn' fill me with dread, as does the thought of the extremely deep waters of the southern Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.

I'm not likely to venture into these regions in any kind of sea-going vessel but, nevertheless, I'm wondering why I have this seemingly irrational fear of the deep in those particular parts of the world.

Would it be unreasonable to explore whether past life regression can shed any light on my fears? Have you had any experience of recalling past lives and, if so, has it helped you in your present life? Is it something that you would like to do (someday, sometime, when you get round to it) or are you disbelieving of the concept of reincarnation?

Agree seeker, far too many exploiting the vulnerable. I'm not sure she's one of them though, it's mostly people doing it for cpd doing her courses, for interest and to learn hypno-light.

"Counselling is logical though, and an established proper technique. Past life regression is the reiki of the psychotherapy world. Its about as sensible and rational as angel readings and crystal healing"

Spooky. Did you see the advertisement for a crystal healing on scam lady's website?

And we know exactly why and how ECT works. There is a modern version of it that works even better, deep brain stimulation.

Fuck logic. And I don't think of counselling as logical, I think of it as spiritual. And if we're talking 'demonstrable outcomes' the government reckons cbt has demonstrable outcomes - I just wrote a paper criticising this and saying that short term (12 sessions or less) cbt has little effect long term but other modalities are more efficacious.

I'm far more concerned about week long 'counselling' cbt courses that lead people to believe their therapists (and don't get me started on one day life coaching courses) than I am about a technique that isn't harmful and is mostly carried out by people who are qualified in other ways.

define spiritual its subjective!
therapy needs a clinical pathway,robust evidence based research and mdt approach in community

no one needs some woolly chuff about spirituality
least of all not nhs that has to pay the bill

Fuck logic?

You can ride your high horse right out of town, into fluffy land, and live in the company of homeopathic quacks, hopi ear candlers and aura cleansers.

Was your paper published in the Starlight Journal?

can a clinician seriously say fuck logic
have you been eating the willy wonka bars

The veil is lifting hocus.

The horrendous skin condition 'twas but the after-effect of the pox which many of my fellow peasants and our betters suffered from. The witch who sold me a cure for my dermatological disfigurement and told me it was distilled from essence of moon shine, turd of toad, blood of bat, and a dead man's finger, deserved to be burned at the stake - that was a lovely blaze, only time I felt warm that bitterly cold winter.

Begging for sex? Are you absolutely certain? As far as I can recall, I was selling my favours for a groat or two, not giving them away to all and sundry.

Thanks to you, I now understand why I have a disliking for museli. Having lost my teeth to malnutrition, and being unable to afford a fashionable set of wooden dentures, I could only eat oats - usually stolen from a nag's nosebag but occasionally pilfered from a farmer's field.

That's the South China Sea taken care of; what can you tell me about Cape Horn....?

Didn't realise you were cbt.

Apologies if I've offended you, I'm sure your course was really good.

Is that @ me? I'm not in CBT.

So why criticise that I've written a paper questioning cbt? Unless you have an interest in cbt.

It's your money, but soon it'll be someone else's! I have met people who do past life regression and they are, without exception, charlatans. I used to know a guy who had a 'training school' to teach people how to fleece people like you using PLR. However, as I said, it's your money, but soon it'll be theirs.

I'm not criticising your paper, I haven't read it (as far as I know, its vaguely possible that I have depending on where it was published). I'm criticising your attitude and your support of quackary. I expect more from professionals.

Oh right. The 'starlight' reference was just a general insult.

Much better.

Glad to not live up to your expectation of 'professional'. Just because I think of counselling or psychotherapy as a spiritual, personal connection and not as solely as a logical, clinical, diagnostic tool does not mean I'm some fuckwitted angel/fairy pedlar.

Well the Starlight Journal is a real magazine.

And its more the past life regression bollocks that puts you into the fairy-woo camp, though "fuck logic" isn't going to win you scientist of the year award.

Hey man you're the one reading 'Starlight' magazine. I'd never bloody heard of it.

Don't worry Laurie, I can see what you're saying, I think you're handling yourself with dignity (apart from the odd "fuck logic") and I am not about to start getting all red in the face and crying "woo" at you.

I just googled for "utter shit publications past life wooery" and lo, the Starlight journal, amongst other bollocks that people apparently pay good money for. But then there is a seemingly endless supply of fools and their money, no doubt you know this.

Pishwife, I think the dignity boat has sailed, with your birth-regression story.

Ooh, you researched me!

It's like Ricky Gervais says, two Napoleon's show up at a "come as you were" party. One of them's lying

Having said that, I find it fascinating but my only irrational fear is of asteroids.

Unless...unless I was a dinosaur.

I glanced up thread, not really indepth research, But you can take it as a compliment anyway if you like.

LOVING the mistyping of "patient" as "payment"!

Pretty much sums the whole thing up

I've really heard it all now :o.

'When people do this bullshit past life regression, why are they always Cleopatra or Charlemagne, and never a sewer cleaner or a peasant with the plague?
Thats what I want to know.'

Me, too.

I know I smoked enough cannabis and did enough LSD at university, if I were regressed, I'd probably saw I was the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland or some other cock and bull story like that, which is what all this regression is.

Siamo, just because you don't agree with Laurie's views, I don't think there's a need to be quite so....harsh. You're starting to dish out personal insults, which there really is no need for!! You're trying to persude Laurie that her personal beliefs are a pile of 'bollocks' - that may be your opinion, but I don't think you need to argue with her over it.