to think I should not be threatened with a ban for questioning the use of offensive language?

[thefirstMrsDeVere]

I am a member of a very heavily moderated website. Swearing is not allowed at all, threads are pulled regularly if people are mean to each other, not threads about threads are tolerated and you are not allowed to mention anything said before on the boards at all. All these things will result in deletion and warnings.

I have been a member for years (before mumsnet even). There was a particularly nasty thread that was allowed to go on for pages which ended with a woman referring to children with LDs as 'being tapped in the head'..

I started a seperate thread wanting to discuss the use of disabilist language on the site and asking why words like bitch, whore and piss were not allowed yet retard, mong and spaz were.

I was told that some people might think it was ok to use those words so they couldnt filter them out, it wouldnt be fair.

I continuned to question this in a firm but polite manner and have now discovered I have been sent a message telling me that my style of posting is offensive and I have been taken straight to a final warning!

Not that I give a toss, the site is crap. I guess I am taken aback that you can be pretty much threatened into silence if you dare question the mods on this HUGE and well known site.

Its an issue that means a lot to me. If it was a site on which everything went language wise I wouldnt have bothered. But on this prissy site where you cant say bugger - you can call something retarded or monged out with no bother.

I think its bollocks and makes me glad I have mumsnet to come and tell people to fuck off on.

yep, port and some simpering women saying "yeah loverboy, you tell them nasty women (now when did you say I had to suck your cock ?"

Erm, I might have made that last bit up, but you get my drift...

Just read the whole other thread. Your points were calm and well reasoned, the Mod wasn't.

Unfortunately questioning a mod is always going to get you grief, even if you are in the right. Its why I will never support people who want this site moderated.

always a "no" from me for any form of moderation on MN

A common term for chilling or relaxing? Really? Surely not!

- AnyFucker - sad thing is the site is so pathetic it doesn't deserve any attention from us....

I'm not a member of Netmums so i can't see the thread but if ""some areas of the country use Mong as a common term for 'chilling' or 'relaxing'"" is a typical sort of comment i am shocked...

bloody awful :(

I posted a reply to Rachael, saying that i agreed, and that words such as Mong, Flid and Spastic should also be blocked.

they blocked spastic, but Spaz still remains.

They really are thick aren't they? you only have to google Mong - (wiki, Urban dictionary etc.) to find no mention at all of relaxing

I can't read the thread on NM, and I don't condone the use of the word, but I think the moderator will find that "monged out" is NOT a term for chilling, it's used when you're really stoned or out of it on downers.
Ironic, no?

Been on the FB site, for someone who hates mumsnet- he spends a lot of time there! so sad

Mumsnet Sucks
Oh and (named MN poster), aren't you the one who doesn't let your daughter's father be part of her life for the dubious reason that he was a 'rubbish' father? And so you could be free to get in lovers when you need fucking - just reverse the sexes and see how a man would sound if he said shit like that - Couldn't you have exaggerated instead and said he was abusive or something?
July 25 at 11:53pm · 2 people(FB poster) and (FB poster) like this..

That's about the width of it

Even if mong is a synonym for relaxing - well why can't people just say relax instead? If you have a more acceptable option why not use it?

Love the fact that you can't block mong because lemongrass would be asterixed out.

Strangely NM already have the technology to allow snigger but block n*gger - I really dont' understand why they can't block mong and allow lemongrass.

the moderator on netmums should be ashamed of herself.

personally I think yab a little unreasonable in that their explanation about words like 'mong' being asterixed out of words like lemongrass (le**rass) is a fair one.

however I do think you are right that the words are offensive.

Are you arguing this point because you think it's silly that words like fuck are in their swear filter or because you genuinely want words like mong to be included in the swear filter?

I second Maryz - thank goodness I found MN first.

While I agree that freedom of expression is important, there are limits, and derogatory names aimed at anyone are not acceptable. Especially not at a vulnerable group like children with LDs.

I think occasionally the name-calling gets out of hand on here, and I don't like it, but I'd rather earn myself a handful of s from certain posters for objecting, or be told to go back to my cotton-wool-wrapped shelter, than have the use of language on here moderated.

They have a 2 day time out ban! wtf do they have a naughty step too?

I have just looked up "mong" in this MASSIVE slang dictionary.

Sense 1 is a term for a dog from 1940s Australia, derived from Standard ENglish (SE) "mongrel". So we can leave that aside for the moment, I think.

Sense 2 is: mong n [abbr. SE mongol] [1970s+] a general term of opprobrium. The overriding implication is that of stupidity.

The adjective "monged" (1980s+, intoxicated by a drug) is given as being derived from sense 2. So is "mongy" (stupid, dull). "Mong (out): to be dully comatose" is given as being derived from "monged", so also ultimately from sense 2 of the root word.

This is one of the most authoritative slang dictionaries around btw, and there is nothing here to suggest there are any terms for being chilled or relaxed involving the word mong in any form. Unless of course she was thinking of the ones that mean intoxicated or comatose, in which case they actually ARE demonstrably derived from the offensive term "mong".

I know nobody will read this whole post, btw, but once I started it I had to finish it

'ere where I grew up 'monged out' phrased used for bloody knackered/ hungover. It no longer is from what I know of as it is offensive and it shouldn't be OK to use it..

mrsDV I cannot get to the link. I am a member of NM but can't de-reg as you say. Do I need to sign in to read it?

DF - I think the moderator was lying about lemongrass. NM block racist words but allow snigger without any asterixes.

X posts with dirty

Ah right - then that is just stupid. The mod is making an arse of herself.

my problem with filters is:

Don't Arse and A mean the same thing really? If you are reading something, letters are just what you see on the screen to create the word arse in your head. I read arse or a* but I think the same thing outloud.

Better just to call people on being abusive at the time

I imagine about 20 of the likes for MN sucks are MNers wanting to tell him off for being a doofus. then there's him, his mother, someone who liked the wrong page by accident, a sockpuppet FB profile set up by him and three people who actually genuinely liked it.

Man NM is populated by offensive idiots. Yes, many offensive words are used by various people, but it doesn't make it right.

On bounty, they don't just * the words out, they then steal your capitals and paragraphing . It's the grammar police punishment