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to ask how you and your DP/DH split the chores and childcare...

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fedupanduptheduff · 31/07/2011 21:32

I am a SAHM (kind of working, but part time and very informally as an accountant/bookkeeper) to a 17mo DD. I am also 33 weeks pregnant with DC2.
I do all cleaning, cooking, washing, etc.
I also do almost all childcare - except DH does bath/bedtime - even when we are out I am always the one who is 'on' and in charge and it drives me insane.
How do you split things in your household?
DH works full time, but not long hours - ie he is home by 5.30 every day. We've just had a bit of a 'discussion' about how I need him to help me more, but I don't think we got very far.

OP posts:
billgrangersrisotto · 02/08/2011 11:57

I have just had an argument with DP about this. What would you say was a reasonable split when he is a SAHD and I work full time? Interested to hear opinions without me telling you how we split it first!

encyclogirl · 02/08/2011 16:14

Dh was a SAHD for five years, as a result he has a really good grasp of what needs doing. He's back in the workplace almost 10 years now, but he still pulls more than his fair weight.

When he was at home fulltime he did everything really up to and including making the evening meal. Then we'd both muck in to clear up after dinner, get (another) laundry load on and I'd do the nighttime routine with the kids.

Currently I tend to go in fits and starts, while he keeps plodding away getting everything done. Tbh I think he does more than me, we're probably a 60-40 split.

turdinator · 02/08/2011 16:43

My problem is that I like things done properly and yes, you guessed it, the man in the house is a half job guy! Why start a chore that you're not going to complete, or rush it so it needs doing all over again properly??! To save time and effort there are some chores that I know are just better done myself. A little bit of control freak slipping in maybe, or just good sense is how I like to view it. I make sure he does his fair share though. Would be nice for a little more eagerness on his size, but you can't blame him, who would really choose to do chores of they didn't have to?!

tinkbig · 02/08/2011 17:02

i am a SAHM have a 2.5 year old a 6 year old
my dh works 8am - 6:30pm

i do most things during the day :-

washing
washing up
hoover
dust
tidy
bath the girls as dh gets in too late - he does help sometimes if he gets in abit earlier
he helps me with the tea
at weekends does diy jobs and helps with the girls
he does work hard

ClareyLou78 · 02/08/2011 19:41

Me and my Mum have a theory about this. Housework and childcare alike basically operate on a NEED-TO-DO basis, and it works like this. Most women are prepared to do whatever need doing in order to have an operational (at least) household. It needs doing so they do it. DH doesn't NEED to do it, because DW will do it in the end.

My DH does all the gardening (he is a gardener!!) and I basically do all the housework. He will wash his own clothes too, but I normally end up folding and putting away as they're left on the bed! We share shopping and cooking. What this actually MEANS, is that if he wants to do it, he will. And if he can't be bothered then I do it. Sort of works, although I don't feel it's all that respectful. I'm sad that i'm now one of those HWs who will just go along to keep the peace. =(

sungirltan · 02/08/2011 20:18

i am in my last few weeks of being a sahm (waiting for start date, have job already) and dh works away for weeks on end. obv i do everything when he is away BUT when he is back i fully expect him to be 'on' most of the time. i do organise days off for him since he has only been working for the last 6 weeks (he can go to the gym, meet friends in town etc etc and have a day or tow to himself) but the majority of the time i expect him to do 70% of the work - mostly because he really wanted a child but leaves her for 6 months every year. im not resentful but i have high expectations of him when he's home. this was a bit niggly when dd was little (22 months now) but now she is older he is very good, he takes her out, baths,feeds,puts her to bed and tries v hard to let me have a rest. but that is our lifestyle and he only comes home for 2 weeks.

in the meantime dh always thinks it very odd that men expect their partners to iron their shirts etc as an obligation - he will always say 'i am an adult - if i need a flat shirt i will iron it myself'. he's not brilliant at noticing a full laundry basket or doing a weeks shop on his own (buy lots of stuff but nothing that adds up to a meal) but he does clean and cook and takes the bins out. he is not permitted to choose dd's clothes though!

otoh i realise i am lucky, dh is ex army and ime they do teach men to look after themselves quite well BUT i dont buy this stepford wives thing either - dh and i are both adults with all the skills to look after ourselves and dd - no job is automatically mine because i am a woman/dh is a man - i wouldnt marry anyone who had fixed ideas about women looking after the home!

Taffeta · 02/08/2011 20:23

I work 15 hours pw, DH works FT, 2 DC (7 and 5). I do almost everything - cooking, washing, shopping, cleaning, gardening. DH occasionally washes up and will do bathtime at weekends if asked. He does, however, do all the DIY and has made lots of furniture for the house. He never lies on the sofa or plays computer games, he's always DIY'ing. He also irons all his own stuff and empties the bins, and does the recycling stuff.

He makes more of an effort on holiday as he has more energy then.

Nothing changed from when I was a SAHM to when I went back to work. Except he has had to take a bit of leave in the summer holidays to "help me out". Hmm

Mortal · 02/08/2011 20:47

I'm pretty sure my husband does more because I'm lazy bastard. He gets up at 6am and takes our son out for a few hours so that I can sleep, he washes up, he irons all the baby clothes, he hoovers. I obviously do stuff all day every day but he helps out a lot, he will also carry the boy while we're out and absolutely definitely does take care of him 50% all the while he can. I don't think we thought out what we'd do while I was on maternity leave but that doesn't matter, we just live in a mess most of the time until he gets all huffy and clears up after us.

kiki22 · 02/08/2011 21:07

I do about 80% of the cleaning in our house however DP does about 80% of the cooking, i don't mind doing more work at home as i have a very easy office job and he works hard as a plasterer doing longer hours and a lot of manual labour. I think that you should split fairly however keep in mind who works most hours what kind of job you have etc.

Seth · 02/08/2011 21:36

ok am just feeling very sorry for myself and having a crap night - in fact the last thing I should have done was read this thread but seeing as I did. I am a single mum with 2 dc (1 and 4). I work 4 days a week and do 100% of childcare, bedtimes, baths, cooking, dishwasher, garden, bins, car maintenance, all housework, shopping and well just about anything that needs doing. Before my H left us I did about 70% of most things so if I was trying to draw on the positives I could say that he was a bit of a waste of space. That said. It's gruelling.

BerylStreep · 02/08/2011 22:09

I was just going to start a thread on this and have a bit of a rant. My DH needs a kick up the arse.

Having just made a delicious dinner for him, DH arrives home from work today to announce that he is going to the gym. Whilst he is at the gym, I proceed to paint the bedroom. He comes back from the gym, sits on the sofa for 2 hrs doing naff all. I come down to the kitchen, having painted said bedroom, to find all the dishes waiting for me to load them into the dishwasher - he then asks me to make him a snack and to pick up his shirts tomorrow. WTF?

I'm going on strike. He can do his own bloody laundry and make his own meals.

Seriously pissed off.

Angry
BerylStreep · 02/08/2011 22:27

I work 25 hrs a week, DH works 35 hrs.

I do all laundry, cooking, shopping, tidying, most childcare, all child-related activities (packed lunches, appointments, hobbies, present buying) all DIY, tidy the garage and most gardening, except hedges.

DH does kids drop off in the morning and puts them to bed. He also cuts hedges and claims to cut the grass.

The thing is, I don't know how to change it. We have had the discussions. I stop doing things - but he can wait it out longer than I can.

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 02/08/2011 22:33

DH has his own company so works very long hours. I work 25 hours a week. Do the ironing and shopping. DH cooks, we have a cleaner who cleans and a gardener as we both hate gardening.

When kids were small I was a SAHM so I did all the lions share of the childcare. But from the word go I had a night off a week - DH did the night feed one day at the weekend and we each got a lie in at the weekend.

naught · 02/08/2011 23:14

A couple of weeks before we moved in together Dp's mam sat us down and said to me. I brought my children up to be able to anything from changing a tap, cooking a meal and doing the ironing. Here's a list of everything that needs doing to run a house, now split the list 50/50 between you.
I was 19 at the time, so I wasn't shocked at being told what to do by an 'Adult' but the adult me, now thinks Hmm wow, that was seriously bossy, but thank you!
Dp works nights and I work days, he cooks every meal and washes up, I tidy, hoover and dust. He strips and washes and remakes our bed, I do the children's. I do the washing and get it dry and sort it in to piles, he irons it, I put it away. All our bills are paid dd, and 1 friday in 4, one of us will get our monthly spends out (food, petrol, diner money etc) out and we split it into 4 jam jars, (dp gets paid 4 weekly, my wages pay the bills) We do the gardening together, I do the food shop (on the way home from work) but he writes the list, as he cooks the meals. I do the bins. We regularly have days where I get in from work and he says, I need your help, we need to do w,x,y,z before we can sit down, which do you want to do, and we split it 50/50. Our kids are older now, So I see ds of to school in his taxi (ds is disabled), and he waits in for him to be brought home. But when they were little, I still worked full time, but more middle of the day, so dp could sleep then look after them while I worked and vise versa. It was much harder work then because of ds disabilities and lack of sleep. School Holidays are a problem, now dd is 16, and isn't there to help with child minding. Again tho, we split our holidays entitlements down the middle, we share one week of and the other weeks we try to cover as many school holidays as possible between us, so we pay as little child care as possible.
My FIL is a lazy pig, my MIL has since informed me, that she wasn't prepared for someone to think that about a child she had raised, thats why she did what she did. Once again Thank You MIL

Seabright · 02/08/2011 23:20

I frequently get angry (in my head) at the complete lack of a fair split, but don't really know how to change us. I don't want a row.

I have asked him to make a small change to his weekend routine, so maybe I should see how that goes and build on it?

I think I am too embaressed to write down what the division of work is.

PhylisStein · 02/08/2011 23:37

My DH does all the jobs that need doing in the evenings cos childcare of three kids is knackering and I can barely leave the sofa after 8pm!!!

BulletWithAName · 02/08/2011 23:46

I'm a SAHM, DP works, I do everything bar DIY, which is his job. I wouldn't expect him to come home from a 12 hr shift and start doing household chores, I'd be taking the living piss IMO.

If you're the SAHP parent then I think the bulk of the housework should be down to you. However if you both work, you should split it evenly.

LDNmummy · 02/08/2011 23:51

For us it is dependent on who is more suited to the task at hand and it varies daily. Plus, if I am not feeling up to it one day, he will pick up the slack and I do so when he needs it too. It makes it easier to not be so rigid and rather be flexible on a daily basis.

There are the tasks we recognise as belonging specifically to one of us, but they are always a 50/50 split really. I iron and he takes the bins out for instance.

You DH sounds like a twit, sorry.

tigerbear · 03/08/2011 00:46

I'm a SAHM to DD aged 3 months.
I do all food shopping, cooking, 90% washing up, washing (never iron anything though), clean bathroom, making beds.

DH works full time and leaves the house at 7.30am, getting home at 8.30pm. He feeds DD before he goes.
Once home he bathes and feeds DD while I make dinner.
At the weekend he cleans the floors, hoovers, does the gardening and childcare is split approx 50/50.

Sometimes I wish he would make dinner once in a while, however all in all I think I have the easier life.

pinkthechaffinch · 03/08/2011 07:24

I am a SAHM

I do most of household chores during the working week.

At the weekend though, DH regularly takes charge of dcs doing things with them on his own so I can have some time off and he will also cook, wash up, mow lawns, peg out washing etc.

At weekends, it tends to be more like 60:40, I would say which I am happy with as I think being a SAHM is much easier than being at work.

pinkthechaffinch · 03/08/2011 07:26

I never love my DH more than when he announces he is about to take dcs on a ten mile bike ride with long stop at a park en route Grin

vvviola · 03/08/2011 13:03

We've a fairly even split most of the time (we both work full time), although it does appear to be split on 'gender lines' most of the time. In fact it's split by what we're good at/like doing/don't like doing. (Disclaimer: we do actually have a lady who comes in and does the heavy cleaning and ironing about once a week)

e.g.: DH does everything to do with the garden. I hate gardening, but appreciate the value of having one for DD to run about in
I do laundry (and occasional bit of ironing that the cleaning lady doesn't do) because DH just doesn't see that it needs to be done until he needs a clean shirt right now. When he was in a suit-wearing-job he ironed his own shirts.
DH does bathtime with DD. This was part of an agreement we made when DD was small - I did all the night times as I was breastfeeding, so bath time was my one guaranteed quiet time during the day. I've done better over the years out of that one as the night wake-ups get fewer!

Things have changed a bit since I got pregnant. DH does more of the cooking (although I still tend to plan/shop etc... he takes over the preparation), he's even more hands on with DD in the evenings (he's always been great, but now he is quite likely to send me off for a nap while they paint/do playdoh etc), and he's more insistent on me getting my lie-ins at the weekend.

When I'm on ML, I'll probably take over the cooking completely, and do more of the small tidying jobs around the house, but he'll still expect to come home and muck-in with day-to-day life (if only because it will free us up on the weekends to do family stuff)

kipperandtiger · 03/08/2011 20:57

tigerbear - we should tell other husbands and partners what your DH does and say "listen and learn"!!!

kipperandtiger · 03/08/2011 21:03

@BerylStreep - I agree! Tell your DH that you're going to the gym tomorrow (but you don't actually have to go there - just leave the house and have a nice stroll in the shops/have tea in a cafe/visit a friend/go to the cinema/etc) and say that housework is as good exercise as the gym. Particularly laundry and washing up!

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