to think that these recent posters in AIBU about weight are attention seeking idiots fishing for compliments?

[TheOriginalBanshee]

Have they never heard of BMI? Surely they know they are slim as they must need to buy small sized clothes. Then why the need to post a boo hoo tale of woe is me to incite a load of sympathy posts that read YANBU you are soooooo skinny....wish I was that skinny......I'm sooooooo fat! And no, I do not have a weight problem at either end of the scale. I'm just sick of this body pananoia. Pull yourselves together women, for God's sake! Enough of this wallowing and whining about what your DP or DM said. Grow up- you have children now. Set a better example to your own daughters and shut up about your weight. Take a deep breath and let us ALL EAT CAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OP, I bet anything you are heavy.

Chandon - apparently. It was in the Daily Mail, but Marc David definitely exists. Presumably he would have refuted this if untrue.

A friend of mine used to go for designer-doctor "vitamin shots" that were actually vitamin B with a huge does of amphetamines. She got thin but had to be put on a withdrawal programme by her GP - she was on so much speed her heart and liver were starting to malfunction.

where is your thread getorf?

I want to start two - one asking when it is permissible to express anxiety/unhappiness about weight and one that has every MNer who is 1.6 -1.63m tall sharing their personal ideal weight so I can secretly compare myself.

Mitchie - it is in chat called 'am I fat or insane'.

I didn't start it to get attention and want people to say 'oh you are not fat' - I didn't put my height(or weight iirc) in the OP and just said that I wanted to lose a stone.

It is very woe is me, actually, and thankfully some very nice Mners came along and chivvied me along, but I don't think it comes across as either attention seeking or idiotic, frankly. I was just having a moan about it on the internet because I have nobody to moan to about this specific subject in RL.

there are some fucked up unspoken rules about what posters are and are not allowed to discuss (without accusations of attention seeking from all angles) aren't there?

Will look for your thread

(I want to lose a stone too but don't tell anyone)

GOML....

Ignore,ignore,ignore...

I thought it was about your thread too so ignored it till i saw your post on active.

They can always hide threads they don't like or is that too much to ask?

I would like to lose about two stone and will happily tell anyone.

Mitchiest it's permissible to express anxiety/unhappiness about weight if you're anxious/unhappy with your weight. It shouldn't matter if others might perceive you as slim, if you feel fat then you feel fat, and your feeling are perfectly legitimate. If I weighed 20 stone and was unhappy, seeing a 30 stone person wouldn't make me feel any thinner. So by the same token, if I weight 9 stone, a 10 stone person shouldn't feel they need to invalidate my feelings about my weight.

*it is much easier to worry about your weight than 'the important things' though

anyway, is anyone allowed to express unhappiness with their shape or size or only people with a BMI of, what, 25+? 30+? Or higher?*

I'm 5.5 and a half, 12.5 stone, my BMI is just over 30 apparently and I am according to the medical profession, "obese".

I am def overweight, but I wouldn't call myself obese. I am currently eating healthily, and learning to pay attention to what I put into my mouth (snigger) and exercising, and enjoying it. I have lost half a stone so far, go me! Yayay.

OP, are you saying that because people are slim they CANNOT POSSIBLY have their self-esteem rocked by constant chipping away by someone that they should be able to believe is supportive? In what way does slimness give insight into the agendas of those around them?

According to the OP we simply mustn't be so shallow as to fret about something so trivial, as we are mothers.

I personally have loads of other major things to consider, but think I am allowed to be trivial and grumble on here about any level of shit.

Perhaps the OP is the type to wring her hands in peril at the thought of a dog licking her baby or something . Surely her mind isn't 100% high falutin' and worthy.

OP - you may think I am being rather snippy, but at least I am doing it on your thread instead of starting another one.

Yes, GOML, as if we poor mothers can't possibly contain several thoughts at once, ranging from the sublime, to the ridiculous.

I am only 9.5 and 34 weeks pregnant and yes, I'd like to lose a stone after giving birth.

Here is a poem (another, I am rather osessed by poetry...spoken and very accesible so please do listen) which I thought described rather well the dilemma of really believing utterly and truly that beauty is more than skin deep and that it's superficial and a waste of emotional energy to worry about the details of conforming to conventionally esteemed attractiveness ...weight or eyebrow shape or any other body issue .... and yet being so torn by a desire to be seen as gorgeous. I do believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and love makes us all beautiful, and yet I would be lying to say I don't have mixed feelings. So, here it is

I think as women we can be really torn. But I still love cake.

OOps, I don't think I did that link properly. Her it is again

Hopefully that will do it.