Aibu to be fucking fucked off with dh??

[Lollyheart]

I'm raging inside I'm so fucking angry

We have just had our dog brought back by the police because he left the fucking front door open again!!!!!!

And now a poor little boy has had to go to the hospital for a tb jab, the police man said our dog walked over to the pub garden where some kids were playing football, a witness said the kids were all stroking him and playing but one of the boys got a bit rough and started hitting him with a stick, the witness said the boy climbed on his back by this time our dog must of got pissed of and nipped the boy.

I have told dh soooo many times to shut the front door after him when he goes into the garage for something incase our dog gets out as he is over friendly and will go up to people!!

I'm now scared someone will want to come and take our dog away and put him down because of his breed! If I was the boys parent I would report this to the dog warden so I'm guessing they will do that.

Would they bring him back if they thought he was a dangerous dog?? They did say they could tell his was friendly because the landlord at the pub was feeding him and playing with him.

I'm sooo about this I can't even look at dh, ahhhhh I've told him so many time about the fucking front door!!!

you're exaggerating sparkle.op said "hitting" dog with stick. that a hit.beat is a sustained prolonged series of blows.quite different

dog apologist no5

OK SM - we've established that you think child was behaving quite normally and doing nothing wrong and that all the blame lies with the dog and owner - so what do you think should happen? Dog PTS? Would that be a reasonable outcome?

erronoeus summation there,is that what you think you have established

The OP does say that the child "started hitting him" which to me reads as a sustained attack, SM. Had she written that the child "was starting" to hit the dog I would have thought that that the dog had been hit once or twice and then restrained. From the way I read it that was not the case and I suspect that others on here have read it as I do too.

Oh rollocks! "I would have thought that the dog had been hit once or twice and then the child had been restrained"!

Oh pah, you know what I meant! :o

issue here is
her irresponsible husband,habitually leaving door open
the unattended dog being out allowed the bite to occur, so it needs to be prevented from happening again.
the child should have been adequately supervised by adult companions,but this in no way means child asked for it

as i said i love dogs,my children love dogs but im responsible and i adequately supervise both dog and my children

the casual diminishment of wandering dog that bite a child and subsequent demonisng and name-calling of a child is vile.no child asks to be bitten

If I met you and slapped you out of nothing but pure malevolence (sp?) - or if my child did - would we not deserve some form of punishment, SM?

In my case I can see no reason why you wouldn't press charges against me for the unprovoked attack, in my child's, an age-appropriate punishment, be that from the Police or myself. We would deserve nothing less and we would be asking for trouble to hit a woman without any reason.

The dog cannot press charges for the assault upon him. Neither can he say stop that! He reacted in the only way he could and in the only way he knows against an unprovoked attack by someone who was old enough (if NT) to know better and to know the likely consequences of hitting and climbing upon a dog.

The child, from what I read, hit the dog first and then climbed upon him. The dog had not bitten when hit, which shows remarkable restraint from any mammal, humans included, but nipped when the child climbed upon him, indicating to me that he was effectively saying, "Enough's enough, GET OFF!".

I repeat, any NT 7 year old would know that this behaviour was unkind and painful to the dog and that a dog might well react - therefore if that child carried on regardless he did so in full knowledge of the consquences and cruelty and was asking for trouble.

youre off at tanget,comparing doggie responses to your or another human actions/responses.the given scenario is incomparable.

What do you think the appropriate outcome should be here scottishmummy, all things considered?

There is a human response! The response of a human who met a seemingly unaggressive creature and who having done so deliberately and without reason abused him. In any other circumstances that would merit punishment and it would be reasonable to assume that the aggressor, if of an age and ability to know what they are doing is wrong, should be aware of the consequences and be prepared to take responsibility for those consequences - i.e. to accept that if you hurt a fellow creature they may either seriously hurt you back or, as in this case, take action to prevent you from continuing.

The point I was making was that in any other given situation the human aggressor would be expected to know those consequences and indeed know not to be aggressive without provocation in the first place. So should the child here.

Do you know the saddest things?

That not only does a 7yo find it acceptable to hurt an animal but that in a pub full of people he wasn't supervised, both to stop him from creating offence to others and for his own welfare and that no bugger looked around and said, "that dog's got no owner with him! Here boy, let's look at your collar and find your phone number, let's get you home to your folks.".

And it's the fucking, bastard, stupid headlines of freak stories amongst hundreds of thousands of non-stories of non-events about Staffies and the resultant ignorance and public prejudice which has created this sad situation. Prejudice that I see often on MN and have seen here on this thread.

I'm very proud to say that even from an early age not only would my DC have not hurt Lolly's dog but they would have alerted me and together we would have caught him and returned him to his caring owner.

All men are ar@e holes. You ask them to do something and they will do what they please, regardless of what might happen. Then when something does go wrong it's all your fault. I think your right to be annoyed. Not only could your dog have been run over but now your worrying about what is going to happen. I hope nothing does happen other than maybe a telling off cause the dog was out unattended, as the kid should have been told off for annoying your dog in the first place.

saddest thing is derision and name-calling a child bitten by a dog.insinuating asked for it.deserved it somehow

I have to admit he didn't have a collar on as it annoys him, the police must of been knocking on doors, they just said have we lost a dog,

what would i do?
police visit and note on file dog bit child,irresponsible owner left door open.to be followed up if any further incidents
depending on trauma or distress of child dog pts
adult companions of child spoken to for inadequate supervision of child
and i would hope people would refrain from name calling a child or asserting asked for it, or deserved it

no collar or identification?is dog microchipped

He does have a collar with Id on it but doesnt have it on when at home because it annoys him, he only has it on when we take him out.

depending on trauma or distress of child dog pts

the child was fucking HITTING the dog for gods sakes... what do you expect the poor thing to do, roll over to be tickled????

Ok, fair enough. I'm interested to know how you would feel if you came across a 7 year old child hitting one of your dogs with a stick and your dog was distressed. Can you honestly say that you wouldn't, not even for a split second feel anger towards the child? Because that is the honest first response that people have given upon hearing this post, because a child of that age should know better. I agree with you that to call a child 'wet' for being upset by being bitten is wrong because it's a frightening experience, but to say a child is 'a little shit' for example, is a fair response. It doesn't necessarily mean any particular ill feeling towards the child, but it's an immediate response that comes into people's heads when they hear of a dog being hit with a stick.

plenty ill feeling on here to child.read derisory comments made
compared to glowing family dog comments
my dog bit a kid?id expect to be repercussions depending upon severity and trauma child suffered and circumstance.and realistically that could include pts

Sorry OP, but I agree that if you've told your husband to shut the door loads of times and he keeps leaving it open, he is not responsible enough to have a dog, particularly a potentially dangerous breed. If dogs are left to wander they are likely to encounter children who don't know how to act around dogs. It is the dog owner's responsibility, not the children's. Unfortunately as your husband cannot be trusted to keep the dog in, you should not keep the dog - he might maul a child next time, not just nip him.

Don't forget - every report you will ever read about a dog mauling a child quotes the owners saying "he's such a friendly dog! he's never done that before!" This is exactly what my former next door neighbours said when their dog (a staffs) mauled their 8 year old neice and left her permanantly scarred.

Staffs are an agressive breed. Nature will out.

I don't have much sympathy for the child TBH. That's disgusting behaviour. Poor animal

Trauma of the child who hit the dog with a stick and climbed on the dog's back?!

Don't make me laugh!

It's a shame there isn't provision in law for dealing with the child on the grounds of cruelty.

Lolly, the chances of a Dog Control Order if your council uses them, is higher as pooch had no collar on. I hear what you're saying, he was indoors, but outside, for whatever reason and however it comes about, it is the law that dogs must have a tag with his home details on.

What do you mean, it annoys him? Just that he tries to put a paw up to get it off as my younger Shep does with a Halti, the bugger, or does it cause him skin irritation? I know that SBT can suffer skin problems more than most but a collar and tag is essential at all times, especially if your dog is fond of taking the opportunity of bolting through an open door.

Time to find a suitable collar, consult your vet if need be in case of skin irritation and if it's just that he doesn't like it, to be cruel to be kind and insist upon it.

yes,plenty dog apolgists here who share your lack of concern for child

7yo is below legal age of responsibility.reason being 7yo lack abilty to adequately weigh up action and consequence.