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Aibu to be fucking fucked off with dh??

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Lollyheart · 14/07/2011 18:26

I'm raging inside I'm so fucking angry Angry

We have just had our dog brought back by the police because he left the fucking front door open again!!!!!!

And now a poor little boy has had to go to the hospital for a tb jab, the police man said our dog walked over to the pub garden where some kids were playing football, a witness said the kids were all stroking him and playing but one of the boys got a bit rough and started hitting him with a stick, the witness said the boy climbed on his back by this time our dog must of got pissed of and nipped the boy.

I have told dh soooo many times to shut the front door after him when he goes into the garage for something incase our dog gets out as he is over friendly and will go up to people!!

I'm now scared someone will want to come and take our dog away and put him down because of his breed! If I was the boys parent I would report this to the dog warden so I'm guessing they will do that.

Would they bring him back if they thought he was a dangerous dog?? They did say they could tell his was friendly because the landlord at the pub was feeding him and playing with him.

I'm sooo Angry about this I can't even look at dh, ahhhhh I've told him so many time about the fucking front door!!!

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 23:00

And does your H not like the dog or something? Why is he putting the dog at risk of abuse or being run over? Would he allow your children to run out? Doubt it

TakeMeDrunkImHome · 14/07/2011 23:00

Have read to page 4 of this thread and cannot BEAR to read to the end. Am totally gobsmacked that anyone can say that the poor POOR animal is responsible for any of this. Yup, the OP made a mistake, her husband left the door open and the dog spotted an opportunity and took it. Yeah, a mistake. Same as all the millions of threads were squishy little toddlers are missing and down the road playing with the gnomes at number 10. The dog wandered into a beer garden with people. The dog took a massive amount of abuse off a child who at SEVEN should have known damned better. I assume that 7 year olds dont get served at pubs? So child was with parents. Child HIT a dog with a stick and tried to RIDE said dog. OP says dog is a staffy so a small dog. My 8yo would squish a staffy to the floor. Muscular they may be but small, yes. And somehow, SOMEHOW in some strange world, the DOG is at fault.

Lets imagine...oh golly gosh guys, my 3 yo slipped out the door today, I found her in next doors garden thank goody gumdrops but the 7 yo child there had been hitting her with a stick and sitting on her back. Well im sorry but she turned and hit/bit/slapped the child who was abusing her. Is my child in the wrong?

It is no fucking wonder so many people cannot STAND other people.

OP - your dog did NOTHING at ALL wrong.

intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 23:01

Well I'm sure the child can weigh up the consequences of animal cruelty now

TakeMeDrunkImHome · 14/07/2011 23:01

Fucking legal responsibility my ARSE. Turn it around - 7yo hitting a 2yo with a stick and jumping on 2yo's back. 2yo nips/slaps/bites. OOOOOH bad 2yo. WTF.

TakeMeDrunkImHome · 14/07/2011 23:02

The child should be slapped with a stick and jumped on by a 5 stone GSD. Then we can blame the dog.

scottishmummy · 14/07/2011 23:02

responsibility sits with the irresponsible adult who let dog wander unsupervised
appalling casual demonisation of a child who was bitten

squeakytoy · 14/07/2011 23:05

It is pointless trying to have any sort of debate with someone who quite clearly condones animal cruelty.

At 7 a child is more than capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong.

intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 23:07

If it was a kitten being beaten responses might be different. Or maybe not

DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 23:07

Jane, a SBT is NOT an aggressive breed, there's no such thing any more than there is a theiving race of humans. All creatures differ in personality. You are basing your opinions on headlines and not experience of the breed in number and the reason for that is that "Staffie lays with 4 yo by open fire, farting and snoring" doesn''t sell newspapers!

Furthermore, we ALL have a responsibility to teach our DC how to behave with and near dogs, just as much as dog owners have a responsibility... and that includes teaching seven year olds not to physically abuse and harm dogs. It is NOT my job as a dog owner to be responsible for the behaviour children other than my own!

In what parallel universe do we have the right to think that responsibility for acceptable, non-aggressive behaviour is solely the preserve of the dog owner and the dog and that a child and its parents should not be equally responsible?

(Speaking here as both mother of compassionate, well brought up around dogs children AND owner of three large breed dogs, two of whom you'd doubtless also consider dangerous).

Original poster
Lollyheart · 14/07/2011 23:07

It annoys him in the way he try's to paw it off, it doesnt irritate his skin.

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PPPop · 14/07/2011 23:07

I think people are missing the point. It's neither the dog, nor the child's fault. It's the husband's.

DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 23:09

intelligence, thank fuck you're here!

Now can you please revert to your usual, outspoken self on these matters? You're being worryingly polite and restrained tonight and I'm not sure I like it! :o :o

TakeMeDrunkImHome · 14/07/2011 23:10

It may have been the mistake of the OPs husband but the fact that so many people are condoning the fact that a child of SEVEN who is more than old enough to understand that hitting an animal with a stick and trying to ride it like a fucking donkey might cause the animal to react are INSANE. Have you SEEN a staffy? They are SMALL. Smaller in height than a walking 2 year old! And very very soft. In my opinion, a labrador or a border collie or a cocker spaniel would have done MORE than NIP.

echt · 14/07/2011 23:10

OP - sorry if this has been asked already, but how did your dog get off the property?

You need fences and a gate to keep your dog in.

handsomeharry · 14/07/2011 23:11

Of course it is the husband's fault.

TakeMeDrunkImHome · 14/07/2011 23:12

A friggin' nip is a warning. Seeing as none of us were there I can only assume that the dog had given all the other signals of please back off and leave me alone, backing away, a growl, a bark, a tail wag, and finally had to resort to a nip. The equivalent of a push away after ALL other forms of please leave me alone had failed. A NIP.

Tchootnika · 14/07/2011 23:12

Ooof, sooo much to say about this thread, but for the time being:

  1. OP - I'm f*ing fuming with your 'D'H now. What a bloody idiot:
Is he not aware the your dog could get hit by a car/stolen/more seriously abused...?
  1. DDA does make reference to 'out of control' dogs causing fear - so (theoretically) damage doesn't actually need to be done...
and since, sadly, the wrold is full of people with shamefully ignorant beliefs like this one: Staffs are an agressive breed. Nature will out. if you own a Staff (or other bullbreed, etc...) you have to be more vigilant than you do if you have a Lab, spaniel or whatever. That's the way it goes.

I love Staffs sooo much, and I know many, many people who keep them properly (I count myself among them), but why oh why when things like this happen is it so often a Staff owner who's responsible?
It's just tragic, ends up with people refusing to adopt them from rescue centres, etc...

Oh, and as for the child: yes, it was a silly and ignorant way to behave, but unfortunately there are masses of children who are brought up not to respect animals. Sad fact of life. And if that's how he is at 7, how is he to know any differently?

intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 23:12

Ok DBF.
Your H needs to be rehomed, at least until he can be trained properly.
The knuckledragger child got bitten, or dearie how tragic.

That OK DBF Grin

Original poster
Lollyheart · 14/07/2011 23:14

Dh went into the garage and left the door open and our dog took himself for a walk, stupid dh obviously didn't see him walk out came in and shut the door,

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scottishmummy · 14/07/2011 23:14

no.7yo is not "more than capable" of weigh up consequences of actions.this is legally recognised as minor

the dh should have been responsible.he wasnt.and op knows he is slack about adequately monitoring the dog as he left door ajar and she told him numerous times

DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 23:15

It'll do for starters, intelligence. I can see you're warming up now. :o

PPPop · 14/07/2011 23:16

None of us were there though. We don't know whether the dog bit or nipped, we don't know if the child walloped or tapped it. Not that it's particularly relevant, the point is the husband left the door open again after being told many times not to and put the Op in this situation.

TakeMeDrunkImHome · 14/07/2011 23:17

I am so fucking mad I can't believe people walk around with this kind of attitude. I clearly belong in a cave of some kind with dogs. Much like the fella from the lovely movie UP. With dogs who speak through translating collars. Wouldn't that be good. The OPs dog had a collar on that could translate. Leave me alone please. Your hurting me please stop. Really, this is horrible and painful could you stop. I know my tail is wagging but most people know that tail wagging doesn't always equate to happiness. Please. Please stop. FFS you won't listen to me. NIP.

scottishmummy · 14/07/2011 23:18

skin broken by teeth is a bite
the ire should be levelled at the irresponsible dh.not a child

DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 23:18

Tchoot, I did mention the DDA and fear of threat upthread. Am working on the theory that as the Landlord and police found the dog not to be so this will be much in his favour. Certainly Lolly can argue, if need be, that if the dog were aggressive neither Landlord nor police would have been able to get near him, which is a godsend.

Happy to loan scottishmummy one of my GSDs and to allow my GSD to sit on her small child to prove TakeMeHome's excellent point.

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