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Aibu to be fucking fucked off with dh??

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Lollyheart · 14/07/2011 18:26

I'm raging inside I'm so fucking angry Angry

We have just had our dog brought back by the police because he left the fucking front door open again!!!!!!

And now a poor little boy has had to go to the hospital for a tb jab, the police man said our dog walked over to the pub garden where some kids were playing football, a witness said the kids were all stroking him and playing but one of the boys got a bit rough and started hitting him with a stick, the witness said the boy climbed on his back by this time our dog must of got pissed of and nipped the boy.

I have told dh soooo many times to shut the front door after him when he goes into the garage for something incase our dog gets out as he is over friendly and will go up to people!!

I'm now scared someone will want to come and take our dog away and put him down because of his breed! If I was the boys parent I would report this to the dog warden so I'm guessing they will do that.

Would they bring him back if they thought he was a dangerous dog?? They did say they could tell his was friendly because the landlord at the pub was feeding him and playing with him.

I'm sooo Angry about this I can't even look at dh, ahhhhh I've told him so many time about the fucking front door!!!

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DragonAlley · 15/07/2011 12:43

" I would be livid if my child was bitten by a straying dog, and would be pressing for further action."

Really? Personally, had my child been whacking a dog with a stick and trying to sit on it, I would be livid with them and grateful they had encountered a dog who only nipped rather than savaged them. I wouldn't have been happy they had been bitten, obviously, but I would be furious that they had been wilfully hitting a living creature.

Any parent that has raised a 7 year old who thinks it acceptable to hit a dog with a stick should look long and hard at themselves.

The fact that the dog shouldn't have been able to escape is, of course, a given.

DragonAlley · 15/07/2011 12:44

"the descriptive language in this thread to a bitten child is appalling"

I think you'll find the language is directed towards a child who thinks it fun and acceptable to hit a dog repeatedly with a stick. It's not like the child was innocently sitting down with a orange juice and a straw.

AnyFuleKno · 15/07/2011 12:47

God scottishmummy will you ever put a fricking space after a full stop. Reading your posts is giving me the rage.

Bonsoir · 15/07/2011 12:53

scottishmummy doesn't value education at all. Just be sorry for her...

TheBigJessie · 15/07/2011 13:25

What interesting reactions there have been in this thread...

I would advise that you take action with stair-gates, and the like. For two reasons:
a) For the sake of the dog. Suppose he had been run over? Other people's safety also has to be considered. Your dog may be traumatised now, and thus poses a greater risk than he did before, to any person waving a stick or umbrella.

b) To demonstrate to others that you recognise that a mistake was made, and you are ready and willing to remedy it, and make sure it never happens again.

Your husband has let the dog down by allowing this situation to happen.

And yes, that seven-year-old (if he was seven) sounds like he was cruel, and I know I'd be furious if any child of mine had done that. But... the idea that an unsupervised dog could run into a cruel child/teenager/adult isn't really so staggering unlikely that the poor OP's husband couldn't have realised it was a possibility, is it?

Besides, we have absolutely no insight into the mindset of this child. Maybe he was being deliberately cruel. Maybe he was acting out something from television. Maybe he has little contact with animals, and he thought the dog would understand that he was pretending to be a Grand National jockey, and the dog was his "horsie".

The child clearly needs some clear explanations on what constitutes cruelty, definitely.

scottishmummy · 15/07/2011 13:39

givng me the rage its almost worthy of gothic horror

lol,do you get hairy hands at full moon, devour livestock?or just get disproportionately irked at words on a screen

DogsBestFriend · 15/07/2011 13:45

"givng me the rage its almost worthy of gothic horror

lol,do you get hairy hands at full moon, devour livestock?or just get disproportionately irked at words on a screen"

Classic! That's a great comment from about the only person who has been disproportionately irked at the words on a screen which have been used to describe a vicious little brat!

BeerTricksPotter · 15/07/2011 13:53

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scottishmummy · 15/07/2011 13:57

lol,dbf im being wee bit playful.dont really mean it
do someo of you really mean to call a bitten child a
little shit
brat
git
wet

WestYorkshirePudding · 15/07/2011 13:57

Good God, I'm sure all you people out there sympathising with the dog and slating the child would be just as calm about it if it was your child that had been nipped by a dog roaming round the niehgbourhood...? Hmm

BeerTricksPotter · 15/07/2011 14:05

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Highlander · 15/07/2011 14:08

I hate dogs. I hate the shit on the pavements and in childrens' parks. I hate the way they lick their arses then try and lick your face. I hate dog hair. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would want a dog.

This 7 year old was being cruel to an animal with adults watching, and the animal hit back.

Serves the kid right. I would say the same to my nearly-7 DS.

DogsBestFriend · 15/07/2011 14:08

WYP, no I wouldn't be calm in the least. If my children ever made an unprovoked attack on a dog I'd be fucking furious and would give them a bloody good smack.

Fortunately my children are rescue volunteers and would have caught and helped the poor dog, not abuse him.

Original poster
Lollyheart · 15/07/2011 14:11

I've only spoken to him via text about it so far as he went to work just after our dog was brought home and I have to leave for work as soon as he gets in, he's in bed by the time I get home so won't properly speak to him until he gets up.

He's promised me it won't happen again and will always close the door behind him, he's also going to put up the stair gate when he gets up.

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squeakytoy · 15/07/2011 14:12

WYP, if I found out my child had been tormenting an animal, to the point it was so scared it nipped them, they would be nursing a very sore backside as well as a nip.

BeerTricksPotter · 15/07/2011 14:14

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lovesicecream · 15/07/2011 14:26

If my child hit a dog with a stick he would be in serious trouble, this is cruel vicious behaviour directed at an animal who's only way of defending itself is to bite, it makes you wonder if they behave this way to other children, sm what alot of rubbish you talk, children as young as 4 know that it is wrong to hit an animal with a stick , what would you have to say if he'd been hitting another child with a stick?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 15/07/2011 14:28

Agrees with squeakytoy, so would mine. They wouldn't be tormenting an animal again in future, that's for sure.

I'd also be angry with the people watching my child who were supposed to be supervising him/her... and if that person were me, I'd punch myself in the face I suppose. Blush

LadyFlumpalot · 15/07/2011 14:50

scottishmummy - Many, many posters have asked you intelligent questions upthread, which you have ignored. Instead you have merely repeated yourself over and over again. For your ease of reference, I duplicate these questions below. I would appreciate it if you could answer them. Please try to do so without defining a bit, quoting age of legal responsibility or using the word "demonise".

BiscuitIf your child was climbing on another child and whacking him/her with a stick, would you be at all surprised if the other child turned round and hit yours?
Would you be furious that the other child had hit yours or furious that yours was hitting them?

BiscuitWhat could cause a 7 yr old child to abuse an animal then scottishmummy?

If you saw this happening in a park then would your first thought be

a)ah, bless, looks below Age Of Criminal Responsibility, little lambkin

b) Look at that little brat! How do I stop him?

BiscuitFucking legal responsibility my ARSE. Turn it around - 7yo hitting a 2yo with a stick and jumping on 2yo's back. 2yo nips/slaps/bites. OOOOOH bad 2yo. WTF

This is hard work on an iphone so I'm giving up there, but it's a start!

Disclaimer - personally, I dislike dogs intensely. However, I am capable of seeing what is an unprovoked attack, and what is a provoked dog getting irate.

LadyFlumpalot · 15/07/2011 14:51

Oh for fucks sake! Defining a BITE, not a bit.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 15/07/2011 14:57

Completely agree with you, LadyFlumpalot but you might as well give up as this seems to be scottishmummy's stock-in-trade, for the drama rather than for a reasonable debate. It reminds me very much of another poster who championed the rights of the child to do whatever it likes at whatever cost.

I think most posters are able to discern right from wrong and will clearly not put up with animal abuse.

VelvetSnow · 15/07/2011 15:45

Has no one else noticed that this 'nip' happened in a "pub garden" that suggests to me that the parents/guardians of the 7 year old boy were 'otherwise engaged' (i.e having a few pints on a sunny afternoon) and are equally as irresponsible here.

OP - I think you know you were irresponsible and are ensuring your dog never escapes again, but are the parents of this child going to teach him that it is wrong to hit/intimidate animals or are they going to continue drinking in the pub whilst their son hits other animals with sticks.

Poor dog, I'd say the boy was very lucky to be let off so easily - this dog must be well looked after if he only nipped, other less cared for animals could potentially maul in a situation like that.

revolutionscoop · 15/07/2011 16:09

Weird thread, really.

Joolyjoolyjoo · 15/07/2011 16:13

I'm not going to apologise for calling the child a little shit. There is NO excuse for a child to be treating an animal like this. not being "familiar" with dogs is no excuse- most children who are not familiar with dogs would stand back, or run back to their parents, not proceed to hit the dog with a stick and then climb on it.

And again- where were the child's parents at, and why is none of the indignation on here being directed at them? they are, to my mind, the most irresponsible people in the whole scenario. If child is aparently "too young" to know right from wrong (Hmm) then obviously that child needs constant supervision. Do we think social services have been informed about aggressive unsupervised child suffering a bite because of his parents lack of parental care?? After all, both dog AND child were apparently equally unsupervised.

I maintain too, that this is not normal behaviour for any decent child. Bullying animals usually has some underlying cause and leads to further transgressions later on. So even if the child is currently seen by you, sm, as a perfect angel, i'll bet you anything in 10 years time he WILL be a (bigger) little shit.

Eve · 15/07/2011 16:16

be careful.. my parents dog bit a child on our farm years ago... they sued for injuries.

irrespective of the fact that the group of children were trespassing on our property, damaging crops and tormenting the dog by throwing stones and sticks at it. Parents still had to pay up and we had dog put to sleep.