Aibu to be fucking fucked off with dh??

[Lollyheart]

I'm raging inside I'm so fucking angry

We have just had our dog brought back by the police because he left the fucking front door open again!!!!!!

And now a poor little boy has had to go to the hospital for a tb jab, the police man said our dog walked over to the pub garden where some kids were playing football, a witness said the kids were all stroking him and playing but one of the boys got a bit rough and started hitting him with a stick, the witness said the boy climbed on his back by this time our dog must of got pissed of and nipped the boy.

I have told dh soooo many times to shut the front door after him when he goes into the garage for something incase our dog gets out as he is over friendly and will go up to people!!

I'm now scared someone will want to come and take our dog away and put him down because of his breed! If I was the boys parent I would report this to the dog warden so I'm guessing they will do that.

Would they bring him back if they thought he was a dangerous dog?? They did say they could tell his was friendly because the landlord at the pub was feeding him and playing with him.

I'm sooo about this I can't even look at dh, ahhhhh I've told him so many time about the fucking front door!!!

Complex I can refer you to scores of websites. I won't though. I'll speak from personal experience as a SBT owner in the past, a fosterer and a long term rescuer and experienced animal welfare campaigner and AR activist.

I don't NEED second hand website comment to prove my point. I've got out there and found out for myself as have my children.

God knows how we all survived in the 70s and 80s when it was commonplace to just let the dog out the back door. Wrong? Of course. Nothing better known at the time? Yup. All those rabid dogs running wild in playgrounds and beer gardens. Amazing we here to type about it.

Defo giving up now. Can't really beat sense into people with words. Please don't feel bad when you get little response to your post "my 2yo was being tormented by a much bigger stronger intimidating child who hit my child with a stick and tried to ride my child like a donkey at blackpool beach and my child lashed out after many attempts to tell bigger child to back off, was my child BU?"

flaming hell- the thing that stood out the most for me in the OP was a 7yo, unsupervised in a beer garden, being allowed to approach, and then HIT and then CLIMB onto an unsupervised dog- where the hell were the parents?? Too busy pissing up to notice what their offspring was up to?

Yes, it is never ideal for a dog to be out unsupervised, but mistakes happen. Dogs get out. I've known many many responsibly-owned dogs (including my own ) managing an escape bid. Obviously the DH is responsible for that, BUT he didn't let it out deliberately! whereas child with stick behaved deliberately and feckless parents either sat supping and watched OR were oblivious, which to me is a far more disturbing lack of responsibility.

I've had an unsupervised dog appear in my garden. I approached the dog first, tried to find out who it belonged to. Told dc (well-accustomed to dogs) to leave it alone. It's not rocket science. There will be "dangers" that arise, and as a parent it is YOUR job to ensure that your child is safe and supervised.

And WHY do people persist, despite the proclamations of those of us who routinely work with and know dogs, in believing that SBTs are a "vicious breed"? As a vet of 16 years, I can categorically state that I have never met a staff I am wary of. OK, some of them are not great with other dogs, but they are definitely not anywhere near the top of my list of dogs to watch when it comes to human-aggression. I realise I am wasting my time in this, as the DM and its ilk have far more experience and knowledge than I do....

As for your concern re the DDA, OP, the fact that there were several witnesses who didn't see the dog as "threatening" and that the police brought it home should mean that you can relax somewhat. For my part, I have found the police less than zealous re the DDA, even when there ARE grounds for action!! I reported a rottie, an akita and a SBT running wild, in my garden, to the police. The three dogs came in and half-chewed their way through my poor rabbits' hutch, and appeared in my garden on several occasions. Apparently the police could do nothing, and the dog warden was too busy. I gave my concerns that I, at the time, had 3 children under 5, but tough shit. I had to pay thousands to get my garden totally fenced in, AS A RESPONSIBLE PARENT, to ensure my kids weren't caught between bunnies and dogs. police weren't interested, despite other people having previously complained. In fact police suggested I "put something down"!!! When asked if they realised this would be illegal (not to mention dangerous to MY dogs and children), they hummed and hawed. I wouldn't worry too much. If completely irresponsible owners can get away with it on a regular basis (which I am NOT saying is right!!) then a family pet, provoked into nipping ,observed by several witnesses should be ok.

And I am NOT a "dog apologist", because the DOG has nothing to apologise for!!

Because many many many parents are feckless idiots who should have been prohibited from breeding and couldn't give a feck about what fell out of their vaginas as long as it puts money in their account every month. Basically.

Phew, Jooly thank you!
Voice of reason - much, much appreciated!

Note: I have not "bad-mouthed" the said little shit child who tormented the dog, but it is interesting just how many serial killers start out torturing animals- to the point where we and the SSPCA/ RSPCA now have to notify police about animal cruelty. Just saying.

To those decrying the OP, and feeling sympathy for the child and his parents- would YOU sit and look on while your child behaved like this with a strange dog??

This really is all on your DH.

If anything comes of it, it will be his fault, not the dog's and not the kid's who by their very natures cannot take responsibility for their actions.

Get the stairgate up, train the dog to not cross the threshold without you(it can be done), put a sign near the door saying 'Close the Bloody Door', if the dog isn't microchipped get it done immediately.

And pray that it doesn't go any further because I am pretty sure if the parents decided to they could put a lot of pressure on you to have the dog put down under the law.

If you send your DH around there, it will be an admission of liability and also will let them know exactly who is to blame if they decide to take it further.

I dont feel 'sympathy' for the child nor would I blame the OP as it was her husband who let the dog out - much to her disgust.

I would never sit back and watch an animal being treated cruelly - never.

But nor would I call a 7 year old child a 'shit'. Just a personal opinion though.

Fair enough, but a 7yo with such a lack of empathy to another to a living creature would worry me, tbh. Couple that with the fact he has parents who don't seem to care, and I would really wonder what this child will grow into. I would be more worried about how that child will behave in future than how the dog will behave in future My 3yo would never behave like that towards a dog, any dog, in any situation. If he did, I would be appalled, tbh.

Jooly - I agree, to an extent (and I'm glad that you're now required to report animal cruelty to the police, since I've seen some hideous treatment of dogs which, I'm told, police have ignored, sometimes following pathetic 'apologies'/excuses).
But I do think children actually need to be taught to respect animals. I see a lot of children around who clearly have no contact at all with animals, and I think they genuinely don't understand that animals are living, feeling beings. Deeply sad, obviously, but seemingly a natural progression from just not being taught.
FWIW, it seems to me that some of these beliefs that certain dog breeds are inherently vicious seems to me a bit like the thin and of the wedge of that sort of dangerous ignorance, too.

As W C Fields observed 'Never work with children or animals', but by gawd they attract mega-audirences.

Totally agree with scottishmummy and complexnumber. I would be livid if my child was bitten by a straying dog, and would be pressing for further action. The dog NEEDS to be looked after by someone who can keep it inside and under control, fot its own protection and that of the public. Yes, the kid did something stupid, but he does NOT deserve to be bitten. I'm finding the dog-lovers' gloaty "he got what he deserved" utterly repellent.

Anyway, bloody glad I'm not living in your neighbourhood. Sounds rough...stray dogs, stray kids, feckless husbands. Shameless??

Hardly a stray dog

My dog didn't deserve to hit by a stick or sat on, he wouldn't of got a nip if he was nice to him or left him alone!!!!

Im just glad he is a friendly dog, if he was this bad dog that a couple of you are making out he would of probably got his faced ripped off!!

at rough area, far from it love!!!

I was thinking about this and wondering if the child was pretending to ride the dog. Like a pony. In which case he was playing not deliberately being cruel.

Hope all is well. IMO dog does not deserve to be PTS but fingers crossed the parents feel that way too. I would if it was my lad.

No one has come to talk to us about what happened yet, I'm on edge waiting for the door to knock.

I've made myself Ill today worrying about this, I got hardly any sleep last night, my head hurts and my eyes ache, it doesnt help being nearly 31 weeks pregnant.

If your child was climbing on another child and whacking him/her with a stick, would you be at all surprised if the other child turned round and hit yours?

Would you be furious that the other child had hit yours or furious that yours was hitting them?

Another one with no sympathy for the brattish child that was old enough to know right from wrong and was presumably supervised by it's parents.

I'd be fuming too, OP, if you have a shed, send your husband there for the foreseeable... closes equivalent of a doghouse.

Don't let this upset you in your condition, if there were serious problems, the police wouldn't have returned the dog to you.

I hope the child's arm is really smarting. I hate cruelty to animals.

now a vet has waded in and child is "little shit"
add that to
brat
little git
and wet

an outrageous reaction

DH's fault for letting the dog get out in the first place, but what about all the adults at the pub (including presumably someone who was 'responsible' for the kid who hit and sat on the dog)? Where were they when they needed to take responsibility? I am sorry the child got nipped, but I also think he was very lucky and the dog must be a very mild-mannered one if a nip is all that happened.

I do think it sounds as if the situation is under control and you don't need to worry too much, OP; if the police had thought your dog was genuinely a danger, and/or the child's parents had raised concerns, something would have happened by now.

scottishmummy... Some parents have no respect for themselves, others or their children. They don't teach children right from wrong but are always there at the forefront, denying that their precious offspring has done anything wrong. They have no sense and really would be better off not breeding at all. They are everything that's wrong with society today.

I know that I don't fall into that category; if my child does wrong their behaviour will never be excused by me.

You are always there for the 'child', scottishmummy, right or wrong. How patronising to the child and how pointless of you.

the descriptive language in this thread to a bitten child is appalling