AIBU to wonder why any woman would identify herself as [2]

[garlicnutter]

... not a feminist?

Since I killed the old one.

Absolutely, that's why it's so sad. That's why we should offer them love and thaw out their little frozen sad hearts.

Any 'man' who comes on to a forum like this just to annoy women is unbelievably sad and tragically pathetic - I wouldn't waste a second of my time on him.
Thankfully, all the men I know are real men.

It's like ol Mauriz Holdall (he may have been another Jamez I don't know), I kept asking him why he didn't want to be friends, he didn't answer. He couldn't answer, could he? Take away their hatred and you take away their whole identity.

So, that's who Jamez is. I've been noticing mentions of him around.

Wasting so much of his trying to start fights? It's just bizar.

Poor guy, he's obviously been traumatised by not having had a normal relationship in many years, which might be the fact that he spends so much of his time trying to fight the evil feminists. And he really needs to get rid of that moustache.

No man in full possession of all his faculties would dream of coming on here just to wind up feminists, they just wouldn't - it's different if they want to join in with genuine concerns or have something constructive to say - but anything else....,???

and it's different if women are coming at feminism from different angles - they usually end up meeting in the middle and finding common ground.
I sometimes wish MN was female only, even though I like a lot of the regular normal men on here.

James and others like him have been on a mission for several years now. Propagating myths about feminism is a main tactic of theirs. It's easy to laugh at him in the cold light of day because when it's obvious it's really, truly pathetic. However, judging by some of the things people on this thread have said about feminism I'd say the tactics of James et al have been depressingly successful.

I think, darling Switzerland, that we should laugh at them, it's all they deserve - and they are both sad and hilarious. Laugh and move on.

Interesting xpost.

I don't think so, sunshine. I think the whole thing has got incredibly muddy now, and it's become "the thread" rather than disparate individuals with different points of view. The main thing, as Lenin said, is that there is clearly a feeling amongst regular ordinary posters that they aren't welcome in the fem section and are scared to post there and that that should be taken on board. That is the only good that can come from this.

The existence and continued harrasment from this Jamez charator really doesn't do a lot for discouraging troll hunting, does it?

It also doesn't help any new members.

He speaks of how paranoid people are getting. That any poster you don't recognise that speaks like him is accused of being him. Yes, that's becasue there is a bell piece invading mumsnet and trying to pick fights and going through up to 5 names in a week. In my experience, if he's being banned that much, he's obviously being offensive.

What's an MRA?

'What's an MRA?'
I'm not sure, but I have heard it described as an arsehole

I think that's a bit of a contradiction in the case of Jamez et al.

A "male rights activist" would be someone who tries to get equal rights with maternity/paternity leave, male refuges etc. That would be fine.

But someone who spends their days picking fights on mumsnet and trying to discredit feminism is just a misogynistic anti-feminist, aren't they? They want war, not harmony.

I also see why some of you don't like us blokes coming on here if they behave like that. And it also helps to see where a lot of the stereotypical myths come from.

Just looked MRA up.
Apparently it's a "Mean Right Arsehole" or something like that

Agree with you 100% TAB:

jamez will know, he gets called it all the time and is sick of hearing about it

Hey, you get mad extremists in all walks of life, can't let em get you down. They are always the sad marginalised people, more deserving of pity than anything.

I'd never heard of the MRAs until this week either.

Why are we even talking about this guy though? He doesn't matter. So he comes on here stirring things up - do what Lenin suggests and ignore him as you would any other poster who was on a wind up. Completely. Use the PM system if you have to to tip people off if you spot him and simply don't engage at all. Then report him and get his posts deleted. It won't make a difference to the thread if nobody has engaged with him. He seems to think he has a level of notoriety that he is getting off on. I wouldn't mention his name again.

Or is there some reason we can't use the PM system for that doing that? Some point of protocol that won't allow it?