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AIBU To think it is unfair that English students pay fees to study in Scotland?

91 replies

Pang · 29/06/2011 22:33

I think it is unfair that English students are paying fees to attend ScotTish Universities when other EU students do not. Scottish parliment is now allowing Universities to charge English students up to £9000 to prevent them from "flooding" Scotland but other EU students still pay nothing.

How can this happen when England is part of the EU? Itn't this discrimination? Is this legal?

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pointydog · 01/07/2011 22:06

Also, clearing is a different kettle of fish. The unis are desperate to fill the places, they are obviously the under-subscribed courses. There are some courses which well-known for having a consortium of lower qualified students on them.

nolembit · 01/07/2011 22:08

AberdeenAngusina you are missing the point. During 'clearing' candidates with entrance requirements lower than normal are accepted. Courses which are fully subscribed will not be affected. Just because those courses do not have students with lower results does not imply that all courses are the same.

pointydog · 01/07/2011 22:10

Oh yesm, there are courses at Edinburgh (and the others no doubt) that accept people with lower grades during clearing. Clearing's the same everywhere.

AberdeenAngusina · 01/07/2011 22:12

I'm not knocking Strathclyde; I specifically said that I wasn't saying that it wasn't a "good" university. My PhD supervisor started his very successful career at Strathclyde. And I know that Scotland isn't just Glasgow and Edinburgh, which is why I listed the top 5. My own degrees are from Aberdeen and Dundee, so I'm hardly Glasgow-and-Edinburgh centric.

I think we're actually agreeing, nolembit; including Strathclyde, Scotland has 6 of the UK's top 29 Universities, which hardly suggests they are inferior!

Longtime · 06/07/2011 19:59

I know this is a bit late but this is a good website for studying in the Netherlands (I forgot about it before):

ispacsearch.nuffic.nl/

wahwahwah · 06/07/2011 20:04

I am pissed because I live in England but am Scottish, so DS wont get his fees paid. My nephew, however, nearly 30 and the eternal student, is about to start yet another course in September - fees paid. This is number 4 and he still hasn't yet figured out what he wants to do when he 'grows up'.

Longtime · 06/07/2011 20:08

How is that possible wahwahwah? I asked about a second degree for my ds and they said he would have to pay. We are counted as European but he did his first degree in England so paid there too.

WannaBeMarryPoppins · 07/07/2011 10:44

Longtime is correct, SAAS only pays for the first degree. One of the girls in my first year was unhappy about her choice of uni after arriving and had to leave within a few weeks to make sure she would get funding somewhere else if she applied there. As once SAAS has paid you won't be able to get it again

wahwahwah · 07/07/2011 12:10

He is not doing degrees although hw was accepted onto one but the course got cancelled. Maybe vocatonal courses are not counted?

Snapespeare · 07/07/2011 13:15

I lived in Glasgow for 20 years, my three children were all born in Glasgow. My eldest is 16 on sunday. I moved to England last year for work (basically the type of work I do has far better opportunities for progression in London and as a single parent and sole provider for my children, I couldn't manage to support my family in Glasgow. My daughter is going to 6th form in London, so she will not be elligible for a 'free' degree course in a Scottish university, despite being Scottish, having a scottish father and grandparents who still reside in Scotland. very Angry & Sad. doubt she will ever go back to live in Scotland now.

wahwahwah · 08/07/2011 09:19

That is so crap! Write to Salmond and complain! I am sure there are many people who move over the border when their kids are in secondary school to have the opportunity of free courses.

Longtime · 08/07/2011 12:27

Will you have been out of Scotland for three years by the time she starts at uni? If not, you should still be able to claim Scottish residence.

Snapespeare · 08/07/2011 13:00

Really Longtime!? there is hope?!! whoop! She would have been living with me for two years by the time she is thinking of going to uni and would love to go to Glasgow or St Andrews so she can either stay with friends or her granny/Granpa.

I'll investigate further - thnak you so much! :)

Longtime · 08/07/2011 20:33

Residence is usually three years. I guess it might be different within the UK (I'm in Belgium) but certainly worth checking out.

Longtime · 08/07/2011 20:38

I hope I haven't given you false hope. I can't find anything about it on the SAAS website.

Snapespeare · 09/07/2011 09:20

That's ok Longtime, i'll take it forwards. :) any hope, even a little is always welcome!

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