to ask what a chav is?

[tallulahxhunny]

Who/what are chavs?

They are very popular anyway as everyone seems to be one and everyone talks about them

And yes to Pot Noodles and crab sticks.

Yummy!

7% - bloody pot noodle

TheAtomicBum I've been on many a council estate and not seen this behaviour. It's just yet another cultural stereotype made popular by the middle class in order to look down on people IMO

You've been? As in passing through?

I grew up on what and that behaviour is standard.

I grew up on one!

I thought dessert was the posh way of saying it? It say "Afters". I must be quite chavy, but I can't access the link. I get some veg and meat from the freezer. Why is it chavy to do so?

Next you're say it depends on how you say "Comb".

Someone who lives on estate or is new money who has no Taste dresses like a 15 year old possibly a pink juicy tracksuit with gold uggs

Has several children by several men of whom she is not sure who the dads are.

Often had on a off run ins with the police and social services

Never worked a day in their life usually clamming their to sick to work

Someone who only uses the oven part of their cooker and only feeds their kids things with birds eye on the box

And sees school as a place they can leave their kids while they buy more juicy track suits and not a place for leaning

I suppose it depends on which estate you're on, and where in the country. The non-council-estates had a lot of that. Some people used to try to put the same music on at the same time one full blast with their bedroom windows open so that the sound of 50 Cent was following you wherever you went. Kind of creepy, actually.

Atomic Bum - it is PUDDING

No, a pudding is a soft type of afters, perhaps covered in custard. "Afters" covers anything sweat that you could eat after your grub.

Such as Rice Pudding. That's a pudding. A cake, on the other hand, is not a pudding.

Well each to their own but the correct word is Pudding. Hence "dessert" being in the "chav test". Bit like saying "pardon" or "serviette"

So chavs are benefit scroungers and new money?

According to the dictionary on my desk, Dessert is a sweet course served at the end of a meal. That describes it accurately enough for me. "Pudding", on the other hand, is a hot dessert, according to the dictionary. That doesn't cover all form to me, and is therefore not the "correct" term.

"Pardon" is to forgive or excuse. Which is what you are requesting should you burp, fart or bump into someone, especially as what you say is, "excuse me." Which is basically saying, "please forgive me."

I just don't get why this is "chavy".

I know, let's get the term "Snobby" out.

And what is the correct word for a "Serviette"?

Fuck is a word with a number of dictionary definitions. Doesn't mean it would always be correct to use it

Napkin

I consider the dictionary definitions to be correct, since we are speaking English and the dictionary is the official meaning of any word in the English Language.

"Fuck" is another example of a word people think stands for something. I've heard it said it meant "Fertility under consent of the King", the right to procriate in medieval times. It's actually variant of "Futrure", which is vulga Latin for sex. It was also commonly used to describe an unpleasant finaincial outcome and other form of someone "doing one over on you." So, fans of Spartacus, it's actually a good translation.

Sorry, I find etimology to be a fascinating subject. Especially the origines of vulgarities.

The words are correct, but there is, in the UK a strange implied "class system" on the use of some words. It is considered very working class / lower middle class to say "dessert, settee, serviette, pardon" and many other words, although no one is disputing thier meaning. I don't think you get the same thing in other countries really - I think it is a fairly English trait.

I suspect it means different things to different people.

If you can answer these questions in the affirmative, the person is either chav or upper class (it can be hard to tell the difference between the two) or, possibly, you are:

1. Are they work shy
2. Do you judge them on their attitudes and values
3. Do you find their manner of dress odd and not in accordance with any sense of aesthetic that you have
4. Do their children have wierd names to which your instant response is "what?".

I suppose you are correct. But I generally speak in what I beileve to be the dictionary use of a word. Not what class dictates I should say.

As for settee, the only other word I can think of is "couch", which I always thought was American English.

Calling someone whose working class a Chav is no different to me that calling someone whose upper class "Snobby" and saying that everyone of them is arrogant, looks down at others as has most likely been pampered all their life and never had to do a days real labour in their life. Both impressions are classist.

I suppose it just chose how classist this country is that we still look at others who have different wages and houses to us as all being the same, when it's totally obsurd that everyone in any given cultural mindset is the same. It's not really any different to sexism, racism or any other really, is it?

I agree. You cannot generalise by class anymore than race etc.

I do think "chav" (awful term) is used more specifically and relates to a style of dress etc so is more like a social group like goths, but it is used in such a derogatory way it is not a term that should be used.

I dnt think chavs are part of the working class as their to busy appearing on uk to work

So you should say, pudding, sofa, nappkin, and what. And you must not hold your knife like a pen. And what ever you do don't go to the toilet.

Have I got this right?

:) spot on. Don't go horse riding or be pleased to meet anyone either!

I thought a chav was just what we used to call a yob.