To wonder why there's so many threads taking the mick out of the middles classes, yet one look on the baby name thread makes me vomit

[rooks14]

Bertram
Felix
Florence

No.
No.
No.

kind of get what you mean OP, definetly agree with the name thing esspecialy the granny names trend! wildfred and margot might be cute for babies but think of poor teenage wilfred trying to pull and look cool!

Better than some other site I was on where someone was asking what people thought of the name Rhianna for a girl and some other ridiculous pop star name - FFS!

LolaRennt you are exactly the sort of person i'm talking about
With a mother that says things like that about my baby, i'm sure she'll grow up to be just as nasty as you and therefore will get nowhere in life despite her posh name.

I've being doing a cultural study for my masters of how modern stereotypes no longer fit into a traditional class system. (ie. Pavrotti singing at the world cup ceremony, Opera - v.upper class and Football - all about the masses). As part of it, i've written quite an in depth analysis of how money has nothing to do with it, just because Wayne Rooney has money, I doubt he'll be invited to Prince Williams Polo match or be seen dead at the opera - let alone welcomed into the elite cirlce which is just as much a part of class as money is. So you're point that you're poor, doesn't affect which class you're in really!

And FYI, my primark special pram won't end up on freecycle because my oldest kid is 14 and so by the time i'm popped out my 7th kid, she'll be having hers .

Weird.

yet one look on the baby name thread makes me vomit

Hold up, I'm nasty? You're clearly jealous that my kid will have a high flying carreer as Omigawd's kid' s agent.

Ooh, I like Hortensia.

I steer well clear of the baby names topic for the same reason OP.

Loads of names that have been adopted by the lower middle class are Victorian working class names.

Florence and Ruby would have been a scullery maids and Archie and Alfie would have been up chimneys with a brush.

I don't know about middle class but there certainly are a lot of whineyarses around at the moment.

I named the triplets Pretensia, Intelligentsia, and Brainea.

Their prebirth-to-preschool tutors (Greek, Latin, Mandarin, Physics, Applied Mathematics, Pianoforte) have informed me that one of them is destined to become Lady Justice XXXXXXXX, another will become editor of The Telegraph, and the third will be snapped up by an Old Etonian member of the landed gentry.

Makes me want to vomit - all that dosh spent on their education and
nary a one will become a WAG or win Britain's Got No Fucking Talent.

I blame myself for not naming them Alberta, Felicia, and Florence.

You dreadful woman. I hope my little persephone and Rupert don't read that before toddler mandarin! ;)

As part of it, i've written quite an in depth analysis of how money has nothing to do with it, just because Wayne Rooney has money, I doubt he'll be invited to Prince Williams Polo match or be seen dead at the opera - let alone welcomed into the elite cirlce which is just as much a part of class as money is. So you're point that you're poor, doesn't affect which class you're in really!

Um, I don't want to piss on your parade but this is hardly news. Class in Britain has never had anything to do with money.

TheBridge Can you get that final sentence made a sticky all over mn please?

Umm... is it possible that among the thousands of Mumsnetters there are a variety of people with a variety of 'social class' whatever that might be, and a variety of disposable income?

There are middleclass bashing threads. Quite a lot of them at the moment and I find them unpleasant because I am much of what those threads are talking about and don't particularly enjoy reading about what a cunt everyone thinks I am and how my children's names make you vomit, but there you go. And there are aspirational baby name threads.

BUT... the crucial point you are missing is that there are ALSO plenty of eg benefit bashing threads, and also plenty of baby name threads covering names across all social classes from Jaydin to Hortense.

You have picked two details of Mumsnet, decided that they are an interesting representation of the whole of Mumsnet, and questioned why that would be.

Bloody hell, OP. This is a Masters?!? Did you actually do a first degree in anything remotely social science related?

Or are you just hideously patronising?

agree with felix being a cats name

and that woman on Four in a Bed , Lady Alice sommat or other, had Hero and Tibbles PMSL - I thought they were cats until they panned into the two sad faced kids

Thebride firstly overuse of bold much?

Secondly, I know it has nothing to do with money, that's why I got a first in my dissertation . It was the person I was replying to that said she wasn't middle class because she didn't have money. I was pointing out that in modern society the link isn't very strong. So don't really get what you mean? And you've sort of just made yourself look a bit stupid really for not reading it properly, and then drawn attention to said stupidity by overuse of bold.

I'm glad some people understand what I mean! And saying 'no' to florence and bertie is nothing compared to the slating they received on other threads, that's why I used them as examples.

I still don't think people understand that I'm talking about how the threads on here don't match, rather than insulting name choices or picking on a particular class.

Is it really worth getting your knickers in a twist about what class you are and how much or how little you have of it? The way i see things is if you are a good person with a good moral code then you are worth knowing, if you are not then you aren't. Peoples kindness and grace has nothing to with class. Life is much more important than pigeon holing and classifications.

Im not going to mention social class because I just think there are a lot of hideous god awful names on the baby names thread full stop. I often wonder if some parents look beyond a tiny baby and think that this is a name their child will have forever. Not Florence tho, not my choice but a nice name. Your average list there is an eye opener that there could be so many people with awful taste out there

The different classes and North /south are the only things we can take the mick out of nowerdays

Im not going to mention social class because I just think there are a lot of hideous god awful names on the baby names thread full stop

Agree!

No OP, in your opinion the link between money and class isn't strong.

I disagree.