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We should send everyone who wasn't born here back to where they came from!!

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portaloo · 13/06/2011 20:41

I have spent the best part of the day discussing immigrants/asylum seekers with my friend. I wish I hadn't bothered. It feels like it was a waste of my time and energy and has left me seething with impotent rage hours after she has gone home.
We have had this conversation so many times, and yet she point blank refuses to believe she is in fact in a minority wrt her opinions and bloody heartless too imvho.
She throws facts at me, and just winds me up, so I have come on here to rant really, because I am too angry to come to a decision as to whether I want to be her friend anymore.
My friend believes that ;
Most immigrants come to this country and commit crime to fund their lifestyles here.
Immigrants should not ever benefit from state support or social housing.
If immigrants were thrown out of social housing, there would be enough social housing to give every British born person a social housing property.
Asylum seekers should fuck off back to their own country, where their own govt should look after them, and if their own govt doesn't look after them, then tough.
British govt should plough more money into British people instead of sending money overseas, because AFA friend is concerned, British people are suffering as much as people overseas with homelessness and alcoholism etc.
If immigration was stopped tomorrow, and all immigrants were made to return back to their country of origin, the UK would not suffer at all economically.
We shouldn't spend a penny on foreign aid while our own people are starving in hospitals and homeless.
My friend answers everything with 'They're not British, so not my problem and most British people think the same way, we want rid of them.' She says all of this with a smirk on her face. She tells me she is a bigot and proud of it.

I don't profess to know much about our reasons for giving so much to foreign aid, or whether immigrants are entitled to state help/social housing straightaway as from May 1st this year as my friend seems to think, but we are all fucking people and some people have fled from situations we can't begin to imagine, let alone live through. I feel genuinely sad that there are people out there dying for the sake of clean water, I don't begrudge a single person no matter what fucking country they live in an immunisation, and if we can help them, I have no issue with that whatsoever.

Incidentally, I asked my friend how she could even have that opinion when she didn't bother working at all until she was 38 years old, and even then, openly admitted that she would never ever earn more than equivalent to JSA, because she doesn't believe it is her responsibility to pay her own rent/CT and point blank refuses to ever pay any of it. She currently lives from a little money her pensioner mother gives her every week to live on. How can she begrudge someone else any help at all when she has spent her entire fucking life being supported by other people. Obviously this is only one side of my friend, and this topic doesn't crop up very often, maybe because she knows how I feel about it, but if she thinks like that, it actually scares me how many people do think like this. She can't possibly be the only one can she?? How can anyone begrudge a child clean water? Immunisations? A safe home? Food? I just don't get it!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and breatheeeeeeeeeeeee!!

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ByTheBeardOfZeus · 13/06/2011 22:04

She knows all British people are products of thousands of years of immigration, war, murder, rape and invasion, right? Our royal family's German, for fuck's sake.

portaloo · 13/06/2011 22:05

This is what annoys me sooooo much microserf. Personally, I have never ever come across an immigrant who is living on benefits in a social housing property. Every single immigrant I have come across is a law abiding working person such as yourself.
Where are all these criminal immigrants living in social housing claiming all of these benefits? It must be a minority if I haven't come across a single one yet. I'm sure there are immigrants who claim benefits or live in social housing or even commit crimes, but if they are in as much of a majority as my friend seems to believe, why have I never come across one???

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microserf · 13/06/2011 22:07

Alas, some people don't realise the Daily Mail is a comic strip for grown ups, and take it seriously.

portaloo · 13/06/2011 22:12

ByTheBeardOfZeus I didn't know our royal family were German. Smile

My friend wishes all of the politicians were gotten rid of too, apparently, getting rid of all of the politicians would pay our national debt back within a year Hmm and then the Royal family could run the country, which would make my friend a little happier she says.

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thegruffalosma · 13/06/2011 22:15

Well yes the educated ones are worse in some ways. They are pedalling lies to support their own ridiculous fear of difference.

thegruffalosma · 13/06/2011 22:15

Is your friend a cab driver by any chance? Grin

portaloo · 13/06/2011 22:17

thegruffalosma My friend has never worked a day in her life and can't drive, so definitely not a cab driver. Grin

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redexpat · 13/06/2011 22:22

Most of my inlaws hold this view and air them in front of me - a foreigner in their country. Nice.

redexpat · 13/06/2011 22:24

I should say we are cutting off contact with a cousin's wife because she continues to spout this kind of thing with no regard for my feelings or fact. Perhaps you should do the same with this friend?

Alternatively ask her how she would like it if someone was about to mutilate her genitals? FGM is grounds for asylum.

NotADudeExactly · 13/06/2011 22:25

Reminds me of a horribly racist co-worker I once had. She once asked me where my husband was from, I told her he was from [some Arab country]. Since I was that person's boss, she thought she'd better say something nice about him. Her response: "Well, at least he's not Jewish!" Hmm

I tend to amuse myself by making those kinds of people explain to me why exactly being British (or whatever) is more meaningful as a communal identifier than being a cat person rather than a dog person. Leads to rambling responses every time.

That having been said: I'd have a very hard time being friends with someone like that and have, in fact, ended friendships over people being racist or bigoted.

thegruffalosma · 13/06/2011 22:25

Probably all the immigrants having all the cars and taking all the driving lessons....or something.

blackeyedsusan · 13/06/2011 22:32

I would ask her whether she thought herself a good anglo saxon.... and then tell her to bugger off back to saxony... (waits to be corrected on appalling lack of historical knowledge)

Ripeberry · 13/06/2011 22:37

I lived in Switzerland for a few years as a child back in the 1970s. If you want to see bigots go there. They even had a go at us because we were not Swiss!
Non Swiss were not allowed to do certain jobs even if they had qualifications coming out of their ears.
But then, they have always kept themselves to themselves.

begonyabampot · 13/06/2011 22:39

didn't the 'I'm gonna vote for BNP' kind of warn you though? I probably would have been off after that.

Riveninside · 13/06/2011 22:41

Dh wants to know where the free house is and tons of benegit. But then he is a theiving furriner.
Your frie d sou ds like my sister. Ironically my sister lives in the US and spends all her time ranting about mexicans. But because my sister is a white immigrant, thats ok....

Jux · 13/06/2011 22:48

Does she know that bigot is a pejorative term?

Print off this thread and post it to her.

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