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Have you been worse off since the tories came into power?

382 replies

samram · 31/05/2011 17:30

Just wondered if anybody else is worse off since they came into power?
i work 16 hours a week as single parent
Child care is £88 a week term time and £120 half term.
In april i had my tax credits cut by £65 a week!
I am really really struggling at the moment.
Just wondered if anyone else is the same ?
I dont just mean single parents and mean families too !

OP posts:
TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 19:19

I did say above that I wouldn't normally slag off spelling and grammAR but I do think it was pertinent to the point she was trying to make.

I think she has a massive chip on her shoulder because she didn't go to university, and doesn't like other people having opportunities that she was denied.

My point is that having a degree and two masters qualifications didn't prevent me being on the dole for 12 months.

*disclaimer: I could easily be completely wrong....

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 19:20

oh you're back!!

x posts!

CDMforever · 02/06/2011 19:28

Yep, we will be £2k down a year when the child benefit is cut. And no pay rises either.

wordfactory · 02/06/2011 19:29

Here we go - another attack from the spelling and grammar nazis.

There are members of this forum who are dyslexic. There are members who do not speak english as their first language. There are members with LDs. There are members who had a very poor education.

What you are doing is trying to make every single person in those catagories feel uncomfortable and unvalued.

Hurrah for you. You must be incredibly proud.

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 19:32

read the fucking thread, wordfactory and then get off your high horse

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 19:32

Wordfactory - I am certainly not intending to make anyone feel bad, my spelling and grammar are not at all perfect. But for someone who has the audacity to slag off degree courses, it is worth noting their complete lack of ability to spell.

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 19:33

Or I could have been more blunt about it like Onion :)

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 19:34
Grin
maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:37

I did say above that I wouldn't normally slag off spelling and grammAR but I do think it was pertinent to the point she was trying to make.
(OH DEAR TWO DEGREES YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK OVER THIS POST AS WELL ,HAVE NO CHIP if you read my post instead of looking for spelling

i had already said i have no issue with any of the other course just that they are NOT degrees, no were in my post did i claim to have perfect spelling or have lot of degrees which then in turn would warrant spelling correction because then like you i would putting myself across as extremely clever,

but because you don't like my view instead of challenging it you simply say well you cant spell if i were you i would make better use of that education and give a proper argument )

I think she has a massive chip on her shoulder because she didn't go to university, and doesn't like other people having opportunities that she was denied.

My point is that having a degree and two masters qualifications didn't prevent me being on the dole for 12 months.

*disclaimer: I could easily be completely wrong....

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:38

now swearing at people

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 19:38

my enormous brain requires further stimulation Grin

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:40

wordfactory this often happens when they either dont like what you are saying or cant challange your points they just say you cant spell or start swearing which is not very nice

wordfactory · 02/06/2011 19:42

I have read the fucking thread.

It just pisses me right off when some of you start getting on your high horse about spelling and grammar..because there are lots of posters who would now be afraid to say anything you didn't like for fear of being ridiculed for their disability or poor english.

You think you can justify it by saying that the particular poster deserve it but give absolutely no thought to how anyone else might feel.

What's the use of grandstanding about left wing politics if you can't even be compassionate?

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:42

i wonder if this will work with my tax return just circle the spelling mistakes and send it back seems to be the thing to do when you dont like somthing

(if i can make the mistakes out of course Smile

usualsuspect · 02/06/2011 19:43

The reason so many people went to university is because theres not many alternatives for young people really is there.

Hardly any apprenticeships and certainly fewer jobs..youth unemployment is at an all time high

Plus vocational courses nvqs ,btechs and the like are very often sneered at and seen as a failure

I worry for my DSs future tbh

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:44

it seems as if you cannot comment of anything to do with education unless you have spelling and grammar down to a t.

oh dear

wordfactory · 02/06/2011 19:47

Apparently, one can only have something worth saying if you are British-born, non-disabled, middle class and degree educated.

Everyone else not welcome.

Hurrah.

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:49

usualsuspect they will only be seen as failures if everyone thinks they need a degree i don't see nvqs or btechs as any less than a degree we need everyone and all skills they are different i believe but equal.

and i would be more happy about my child doing a plumbing course at btech level than my child doing media at degree level.

at that's my whole issue that labour made all these non degree course degree level which they are not thus now making everyone who dose not have a degree think they need one i would like to see technical colleges for the arts for building and for beauty say not degrees but these different things in specialist collages.

than trying to make a degree were their is non to be had

sunshineandbooks · 02/06/2011 19:51

wordfactory and maypole I disagree with almost everything you've said, but I have got to admit that this is really funny and made me laugh out loud:

What's the use of grandstanding about left wing politics if you can't even be compassionate? Grin

Love it!

Can we please go back to sensible arguments now?

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:52

what like oh your spelling is awful sunshine thats real debate

usualsuspect · 02/06/2011 19:57

wordfactory ..I agree with everything you said ,pisses me off too

maypole ,there are loads of colleges that offer vocational courses and I am quite happy for my DS to do a vocational course

but plenty of parents have a life plan for their kids that goes ,A levels followed by university

I think that until people stop looking at vocational courses as second best ,there will always be mickey mouse degrees

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 19:58

ok wordfactory, as a special needs teacher and support worker I can't really let that one go unchallenged.

If you want to slag off some degree courses as being not worth enrolling on, as they are "mickey mouse" and generate only dole scroungers, then you have to show in some small way that what you have been doing (presumably something "worthwhile") equates to something more than sitting on a mickey mouse course learning little more than drinking and winking.

Maypole lands indiscriminately on random degree courses, which she has presumably cut-and-pasted from Google, and tells all and sundry they are not worth her taxes.

I have "issues" with someone deciding my degree course (although mine passed some kind of bizarre "cleverness" test) is not "good" enough, whilst their writing style proclaims them, potentially, a hypocrite.

sunshineandbooks · 02/06/2011 20:00

Er - actually I think I'm one of the few that has made no comment whatsoever about spelling or grammar. Confused

usualsuspect · 02/06/2011 20:05

this thread is making me laugh now Grin

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 20:07

Okaaay, well. I left school, went to college to do equine studies, and then had two children in my early 20s. THEN I got a degree in human geography. There are loads more opportunities available to me now that I have a degree, far more than a college course. If I just continued working with horses I would be relying on state payments forever. Now, I am doing a research Master's, aiming to get a PhD and then become a researcher/lecturer. In that position I am far better off.
Someone else made the point that they should not be made to feel badly about supporting themselves in jobs like binman/hairdresser. And I agree. But I am single, to support myself and my children I need to earn more individually.
Getting a degree has been the best thing I have ever done, and nobody who is capable of doing so should be denied the opportunity. A wide variety of subjects are suitable for study at degree level, and just because that is not immediately obvious to you, it does not mean that these are not sensible degrees to take if that is your area of speciality.

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