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Have you been worse off since the tories came into power?

382 replies

samram · 31/05/2011 17:30

Just wondered if anybody else is worse off since they came into power?
i work 16 hours a week as single parent
Child care is £88 a week term time and £120 half term.
In april i had my tax credits cut by £65 a week!
I am really really struggling at the moment.
Just wondered if anyone else is the same ?
I dont just mean single parents and mean families too !

OP posts:
maypole1 · 02/06/2011 18:00

Chen23 wondered when that was coming spelling was talked about on another thread and the conclusion was people usually bring that in when losing their argument.

or when trying is detract from the weakness or their posts Smile

gstar well i guess we are not really is disagreement but the converation should be more about the fact that labour didnt manage to boost practical learning and for some reason made everything into a degree with giving thought to what needed to be achieved by the student.

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 18:04

i dont think philosophy is a useless degree you have to be very bright to study that.

and some of the world most clever scholers study philosophy but i dont think many of them have a surfing degreeWink

usualsuspect · 02/06/2011 18:06

Labour tried to encourage practical learning with EMA

but I suppose you think thats wrong as well

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 18:08

Xenia, your piss poor excuse of justofication for your vile deterministic views of 'poor people' are not being justified, you are just spouting nonsense.

Maypole, I shall answer WHETHER these COURSES are SUITABLE to be studied at degree level or WHETHER they would be best spent taring (?)on the job or at college -

Hairdressing-salon management ? University of Derby - reasonable to be at degree level, but could be done on the job too, could definitely form part of a larger management degree very credibly.
Fashion-and-lifestyle products ? Southampton Solent University - Definitely, it is an art.
Watersports science and development ? University of Portsmouth Yes, it is very complex and is a science/tourism relevant degree.
Sports-surfaces management ? Glyndwr University - a bit odd I agree, but on considering, think stadiums, some people do need knowledge about these things, I imagine this is very technology based rather than being about cleaning astroturf or suchlike.
Contemporary circus and physical performance ? Bath Spa University - Yes , 'tis a branch of drama/art.
Equestrian psychology ? Glyndwr University - I have a horse, she could do with a psych :)
Cruise management ? University of Plymouth - A huge and complex industry with plenty of potential to earn. Why should experts not be trained at Uni!?
Surf science and technology ? University of Plymouth - We had a look at this degree at work (I work in a med school) as we all throught this was a bit of a joke. Looking more closely this is a really interesting degree which combines marine sciences with human use and technology, along with tourism and sports science.
Pop-music performance ? University of East London. Why on earth not!? They are not going to be doing modules on how to sing a chorus you know? It is about training experts in the industry.
Sexual-health studies ? University of Central Lancashire. Are you joking? This is hugely relevant, family planning, education etc, etc.

And ALL of these degrees will train students with degree level transferable skills. Take a look at your own education which is obviously lacking in spelling, before you start slagging off other people's educations.

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 18:12

"i dont think philosophy is a useless degree you have to be very bright to study that"

oooh ok maypole so your widespread condemnation isn't about the "useability" or employability of a person with that degree...

its how it rates against some internal "cleverness" requirement that you yourself have invented Hmm

that makes even less sense....

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 18:17

well i cant help you their.

well never mind the lefties are not in power any more and hopefully with the new charges the Micky mouse degrees will just die away.

and with red ed in charge and his sham wedding hopefully they will be out of power for many years to come.

they bleed the country dry and people still making excuses for them shame shame shame

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 18:23

just wondering what degree you did, maypole? If any?

I suppose there's one good thing about a philosophy course: I'd have never got away with such poor spelling and grammar (and I really hate to criticise but.....)

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 18:36

WineWink

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 18:39

Apologies for the hideous grammar in my rant at Xenia, 'twas an angry rant :)

Oh Maypole, you are one of those people who say 'Red Ed' as if that is some kind of insult!!!

I am a lefty of replied when you asked for a lefty to comment, can you please answer Onion's question about what degree you did, I am genuinely curious about what course would let you get away with not knowing the difference between THEIR and THERE.

Portofino · 02/06/2011 18:39

"It's perfectly reasonable to expect to be able to support yourself /live working 40 hours a week in ANY job. If people want to go on to further study and earn more - fine - just remember others have a right to choose an alternative lifestyle without being labelled 'stupid'."

Hear hear to that! If your household consists of say, a part time hairdresser and a full time binman, that household SHOULD earn enough to support itself with needing to rely on top ups. I blame this obsession of equity and making money from property myself. It's driven prices up to silly levels. A house should be a home, not a money making exercise.

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 18:40

You did a degree in boozing and winking?! Now that is pretty vocationally useless.

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 18:44

AIBU IN THINKING THAT PEOPLE WHO DO A DEGREE IN BOOZING AND WINKING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SHITHOLE TOWN ARE ALL ILL-EDUCATED DRAINS ON SOCIETY?

Well, am I?

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 18:45

Onion - YANBU Grin

Gster · 02/06/2011 18:50

I think it's also worth saying that we live in a very 'aspirational' society. We're all labelled as consumers, we're encouraged to buy stuff, if we don't the economy suffers.

We don't make anything any more, all the manufacturing jobs have gone to be be replaced by what ? The service industry ?

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 18:53

Wow, I am getting Pm'd by Maypole with the 'word' seconed in the message. Amusing. Hmm

EggyAllenPoe · 02/06/2011 18:53

manafacturing is not in decline

it is a sector showing promising growth.

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 18:54

Manatee I'm one of those people who posts in AIBU and never actually thinks I'm being unreasonable Grin

I see maypole has gone strangely quiet. Maybe she's gone to pick up her giro? Still jobhunting for something in a pub for the visually afflicted?

soverylucky · 02/06/2011 18:54

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 18:55

OMG there is a whole host of PMs from her. I am thinking she is a psycho.

EggyAllenPoe · 02/06/2011 18:55

philosophy didn't hurt my job prospects. getting a Desmond did.

dashed good fun this boozing and winking.

usualsuspect · 02/06/2011 18:59

Has maypole flipped Grin

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 19:00

Usualsuspect - looking at my inbox I would say that yes, she has. Confused

TheFlyingOnion · 02/06/2011 19:01

lmao I've got 2 pms from *maypole" slagging off my "grammer".

Definite ishooos (and yes maypole, I know I've spelled "ishooos" incorrectly)

ManateeEquineOhara · 02/06/2011 19:14

Oh dear onion, I am worried now, I don't know what GRAMMER is??? It could be something I don't know about, totally different to GRAMMAR...

maypole1 · 02/06/2011 19:17

just point out ladies need to get your own house in order, crazy isn't it point out mistakes of others when your post are not correct

but then you need to make your self feel good some how Wink the sad thing is i know i cant spell you might want to go over your posts