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to think that John Hemming is a dangerous man?

512 replies

Spero · 24/05/2011 23:04

For all the Hemming apologists - please read this.

www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2011/04/27/hemming-an-abuse-of-privilege/

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Spero · 27/05/2011 21:55

Yukoncher - if it helps, this is the state of homes in my cases where SS have wanted to remove children

toilets blocked and overflowing
kitchens full of bin bags of rotting rubbish and nappies
kitchen surfaces completely covered with rubbish, floors dirty and sticky
large dogs left to crap in house, including children's rooms
refusal to let SW into various rooms whilst visible rooms are very dirty and untidy
children's beds with no or very dirty bedding
dangerous objects left on floor within children's reach, including methadone bottles.

I think the state of the home has got to be beyond just a bit messy and cluttered to cause child protection concerns. Please try not to worry, I know it is easy for me to say. Just be yourselves (but on a tidy day!) and maybe hide the mug...

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hester · 27/05/2011 21:59

Oh blimey yes, yukoncher. We are definitely guilty until proved innocent Wink

Maryz · 27/05/2011 22:01

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hester · 27/05/2011 22:21

yukoncher, my little girl told the social worker her favourite thing in the world was her front bottom. And demonstrated why.

Now, THAT was a bad moment Blush

yukoncher · 27/05/2011 22:36

oh dear god, hester! Blush :D

Maryz, Aparents DO go through it all, don't they.

Spero, thanks.
I did meet a social worker who said most of the kids beds never had sheets on them (which is really bad :()
So yeah, I can see they shouldn't worry at all when I'm thinking properly. :)

johnhemming · 27/05/2011 22:43

I find it odd that I am criticised for posting in a thread that is about whether or not I am a "dangerous man".

There are lots of hearsay and I would say made up allegations that my advice is flawed. However, no one has managed to identify one real case which can be linked to reality in any way.

I can be emailed off thread at [email protected] if people want to cite a case.

Basically much of the case against me is simply made up.

ChristinedePizan · 27/05/2011 22:53

I find it odd that you refuse to answer any of the questions that have been asked of you.

Spero · 27/05/2011 22:53

Dear John

Please would you answer my question as to whether or not you agree with Ian Joseph when he says that parents in care proceedings are not allowed access to documents in court and their lawyers dissuade them from giving evidence.

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ILoveYouToo · 27/05/2011 22:53

JohnHemming could you possibly respond to what I posted about my impressions about you upthread? Because your posts just seem disconnected to what has been posted / asked of you before. I know threads are fast moving, but from this thread, it seems to be a bit of a pattern with you....?

I am going to take up your offer of emailing you on the above address, as your responses on this thread have raised my concerns. I look forward to corresponding with you.. Smile

Spero · 27/05/2011 22:55

Hester!

that did make me laugh.

Not as extreme but when my daughter was asked by extremely elderly post gent 'what do you want to do when you grow up little girl' she turned and in her best Brixtonian shouted 'nuffink!'

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Spero · 27/05/2011 22:55

sorry posh not post, that makes no sense.

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hester · 27/05/2011 23:14

John, I've just done a quick google search on you. Golly, there really are a lot of people calling you a dork, aren't there? What a lot of people, all caught up in this national web of conspiracy against you Shock. I think you should ask Ian Josephs to start a campaign to clear your name.

trippy · 27/05/2011 23:15

For anyone who thinks I am making up my post is welcome to come round and view the video of ss removing my daughter and to see the other videos and the photos (All 20 pics) as that is all I have.

I REMOVED MY POST ON GUIDELINES FROM MY GP AND CPN AS IT CAUSED A LOT OF HEARTACHE AND STRESS, AND ANXIETY WITH PEOPLE MESSAGING ME.

I have also changed my name and only one person knows it who I hope will keep it private.

JH you do know my case, don't lie I have you name not so good blacked out on the reports that I received from ss saying that you contacted them on such a such date, if it was not you someone was pretending to be you.

To anyone who believes I am lieing is welcome to come and view them. Even my cpn was upset reading them and she said she had seen a lot in her career.

JH "I would like to be able to look at it further, but "trippy" seems quite confused about the age of her first child and all the circumstances involved. "
Like I already said I had a SLEEPING 2 and half year old on my knee, If you have seen a 2year old you would see they are quite big and I could not see over my daughters head and I was so upset I pressed the 8 instead of the 6 by total accident. I also said it is my fault for not proof reading, IT WAS AN ACCIDENT to press the 8 instead of the 6. (if it was an 8 my wonderful mum would have made me see through you as I would have had her support) I would also have been 13years old then. It was a typo.

LIKE I SAID I REMOVED IT ON ADVICE FROM MY GP AS I AM NOT SCARED OF DRS ETC ANYMORE AND I NEED TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR MY YOUNGEST.

PLEASE NO MORE MESSAGES, I AM GOING TO HIDE THIS THREAD (I HAD ALREADY HID IT BUT SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS LYING SO I CAME ON TO EXPLAIN MYSELF. I AM ONLY GOING TO TALK TO ONE PERSON ABOUT THIS THREAD FROM NOW ON. IT IS THE PERSON THAT I HAVE BEEN MESSAGING ABOUT.

yukoncher · 27/05/2011 23:16

Awh, John Hemming seems such a nice man.
HAters gonna hate

Here, did your wife give the baby mama that cat back?

Women eh?

hester · 27/05/2011 23:16

Oh, I feel bad already. That was LOW, and I'm better than that.

Mr Hemming, I will retire in ladylike dignity now. Do let me know when you're ready to actually, you know, engage in two-way communication. I'll be here.

hester · 27/05/2011 23:20

Trippy, only one person has implied you were lying; are you sure you want to continue talking to hi?

I am sorry this thread has stirred things up and distressed you. All best to you x

yukoncher · 27/05/2011 23:20

Oh my gosh, I feel my last comment was really innapropriate seeing it followed Trippy's distresed message :/

hester · 27/05/2011 23:21

yukoncher, stop making me laugh; I'm trying to be a lady.

hester · 27/05/2011 23:21

I think Trippy has left the thread, yukoncher. I hope she has; I think this is not helpful for her.

hester · 27/05/2011 23:23

And can whichever poster is still talking to Trippy please not tell her that people here are accusing her of lying. It's not the case and must be making her feel dreadful Sad

yukoncher · 27/05/2011 23:24

Hope she's okay :(

Spero · 27/05/2011 23:26

John - now that it is clear about Trippy's dates, does her case ring any bells with you now?

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johnhemming · 27/05/2011 23:35

The dates on "trippy"'s allegations are basically wrong for anyone who has been supported by my office.

They were wrong with all of the various dates specified. I believe that it is totally made up.

Maryz · 27/05/2011 23:42

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