mums going ga ga as nursery says no nuts/products

[thekidsrule]

hi,this isnt about me but happened at my sons nursery today and not sure if the parents ABU

as we collected are children a worker asked all parents NOT to include any nut products in their childs packed lunches as they now have a child with a nut allergy

Two of the parents went mad and were very rude to the worker about the ban

can see both sides but as my son dosent take in these products (peanut butter) etc it wont effect me and is probably why i cant make an opinion on this

so do you think the two parents who object to the ban are BU

I didn't thinkyou were boasting, just, not all kids can understand.

I am very happy with a ban, bur also DD's nursery are very good at explaining why she can't eat nuts or eggs.

She is also allergic to fish and lentils, and baked beans

Still, I am all too aware she is at real risk

The parents are totally unreasonable - but agree with bruffin - the anaphylaxis campaign does not say schools should not ban nuts but they would rather an allergy sufferer (like dd and myself) would learn their own way of dealing with a situation in which they would come across an allergen unexpectedly, which happens alot in my case! I believe the campaign also would rather have hightened awarness of ways to reduce risk without luring sufferers into a false sense of security. From the point of view of the school/nursery with more than one pupil with an allergy it would pretty difficult to manage the risk of a severe reaction on the premises and alot to expect very young children to deal with alone. IME Primary schools & nurseries ban actually nuts due to the risk of choking on these products rather than just allergic reactions.

A friend of mine died when she was 15 from a nut allergy, she took a bite of a biscuit that one of her classmates had. She realised it had nuts in as soon as she tasted it and spat it out but it was too late.

When there can be such devestating results surely people can take the extra time to check what they put in a pack lunch.

I try not to worry about it, with DD's other issues thus one seems fairly minor, strangely

*this

Someone asked about having an allergic reaction to airborne milk particles. i said further down the thread that when DS was a baby we couldn't take him into coffee shops as he would react to the milk particles in the air from the milk being steamed. He also reacted a couple of times just when sitting next to another child drinking milk, alhtough i cannot be certain there was no contact in those cases. Thankfully he seems to be growing out of it and nearly passed a milk challenge recently.

I would support a nut ban as it's not really a staple of a normal diet and can be easilt excuded, but agree with BB and Bruffin that bans are not the best way.

Thanks trixy; I have learned soemthing. Mine have intolerances so am lucky although that doesn;t equate to minor as some think (or even lifestyle- severe diarrhoea, wosening of asd symptoms to point of non responsiveness, and until diagnosed no weight gain at all- ds1 dropped from 5 lb 5 oz to 4.5 pounds in his first month and stuck there.

I think bans are important bbecuase I don;t trust aprents. I have had in my time as an SN parent fellow jums complaining about ds3's support (severe, then non verbal, autism); attempts to take TA away for their own (NT) child; compalints ame about the funding for transport he now gets to SNU. Most people are decent but some have such an entitlement complex and will not care that it is unreal. Yesterday I watched aprents crying outside a lcoal school beuase they ahve a deficit next eyar of £100000 plus and have ahd to merge three classes to make two of 30 chidlren each: they genuinely think their chidlren are entitled to a class size of 18 when everyone else gets 30. I just don;t belive these aprents would conform to a voluntary embargo on the motivation of empathy alone. Their child comes first, second and last and nobody else counts.

peachy,i agree that some parents think only of their child full stop,i have three healthy children and count my blessings that i dont have to jump through hoops as alot seem to have to just to get a reasonable amount of help for sn dcs

good luck to all those that constantly have an up hill struggle for their dcs,sadly we seem to live in a very selfish world sometimes and i guess we can all be like this sometimes till we read threads like these and realise how very difficult some families really have it

send them to my dcs preschool, it started with nuts... fine completely not bothered, but now we have.

NO
nuts.
granary bread
seeds
chocolate or chocolate flavoured anything
jam
cereal bars
raisins
a certain brand of organic kids yogurts
soft cheese
fruit pouches/pots (fruitapura things) which contain banana.
fish

farking irritating imo. there has been a warning marmite might be next in which case ds will leave lunch club as that leaves NO sandwich fillings he likes.

bit more irritating for your child to have multiple life-threatening allergies tbh

"bit more irritating for your child to have multiple life-threatening allergies tbh"

Most of the mums with kids with life threatening allergies are against the bans and don't see the point of them!

@PEACHY It's unbelievable how selfish some parents are. Sorry to hear you have been treated like that.

bruffin...well I am not, since my DD has no choice. The point of them is so she doesn't grab something with nuts or egg in and have a dangerous reaction of course.

And I still think its a bit arrogant to whinge about bans being "farking irritating" when you think about the reasons why.

not all older children will have understanding

Absolutely fanj

As I ahve said ds1's is not life threatening but even with a TA he manages to grab the foods he really should not have- I am not calling for a ban but it does show that some kids (ds1 has AS0 will not fit within the rules of 'older kids can...'. if he ahd an allergy he would still take the food becuase he cannot process cause and effect the same way as other children.

yes, they may, I agree even though some might find them "irritating" as was said earlier (my goat was got)

that was to SGM, but I agree with you too Peachy DD grabbed a dog biscuit as she walked past dog bowl a few weeks ago, she was so fast it was eaten before I could stop her, was right beside her,.it had fish in and she had a bad reaction

i can imagine that was scary...we have had a few hospital trips, not red lighted so far though, thankfully

I think they were being unreasonable, DS2s school is nut free it is not the end of the world.