mums going ga ga as nursery says no nuts/products

[thekidsrule]

hi,this isnt about me but happened at my sons nursery today and not sure if the parents ABU

as we collected are children a worker asked all parents NOT to include any nut products in their childs packed lunches as they now have a child with a nut allergy

Two of the parents went mad and were very rude to the worker about the ban

can see both sides but as my son dosent take in these products (peanut butter) etc it wont effect me and is probably why i cant make an opinion on this

so do you think the two parents who object to the ban are BU

Why not ban nuts Bruffin? Seems quite a good control measure to me?

I have no time for the "nut rights" lobby.

As far as I am concerned, the nut ban is neither here nor there. The parents had no right to get aggressive/be rude to a nursery employee who is simply passing on information about nursery policy.

And of course it is entirely reasonable to ask parents not to send in nutbased products if there is a child with a nut allergy. Maybe they didn't realise that nut allergies can be fatal - and perhaps it would have been better for the nursery to have informed parents by letter, giving them the facts about nut allergies, rather than putting an employee on the front line. Not that they had a right to be rude.

I think that this post is somewhat garbled - I think my brain has switched off - so I hope you can work out what I am saying. I think it boils down to this - it is unreasonable to be rude to nursery employees, and it is unreasonable to be stroppy about no nut policies.

my ds is allergic to nuts
i think at this very young age where the child is too young to be able to really understand, a ban is the correct and safest thing to do
I however think that nuts should be allowed in schools , maybe not infant but certainly junior.
Allergic children have to learn to cope.
Dairy allergic children still have to cope with milk being allowed at school. The most imortant thing is to educate and empower the child to keep themselves safe.
So yanbu , those mums are being selfish as the kids are teeny.

I wonder if those parents who were being very selfish and immature in their behaviour imo. I would like to sit and watch a child go into severe anaphylactic shock and then ask them if they would like to adjust their opinions

My friend lost her 17 yr old DS last year to an allergic reaction after he ate food from a take away that he had been eating from for years but they had changed their oil supplier and the new oil contained nut oil - he had an epipen but didn't get a chance to use it as the reaction took hold so quick

Its not like they would be depriving their children not to include nut products surely!

There are a few reasons
One is that there are lots of things that can cause severe allergies so why single out nuts.

Also it may give a false sense of security

It is better to teach proper awareness rather than ban.

That first sentence didn't make much sense ...damn me for trying to talk and type at the same time - I clearly can't multi task

Definitely the current thinking is NOT to ban nuts or be nut freE zones, as supported by the anaphylaxis people. It adds to an air of complacency. Check out their thinking though

Bruffin is right.

I think the reaction is rude but I have to say I didn't really understand why they had to be banned when we first came across it. I liked the teachers approach in my son's Kindy class. First week she asked parents to avoid sending in nuts until they were aware of specific allergies. As it turned out no nut allergies so no ban was needed. Seemed a sensible approach to be me.

Rather, as the relative of a young nut allergy sufferer I agree to a point... but NOT at nursery or infant level. An older, allergic NT child is able to manage the condition by awareness, as are her non-allergic peers able to show sense and consideration, a small child is not, neither would a SN child necessarily be able to.

FWIW idiots like the parents mentioned in the OP could cost a child his life FFS! We're not talking of a vegen family who wishes their child not to have any chance of coming into contact with meat on moral grounds but of life and death here. Remember, some children are so allergic as to be affected by airborne contamination or a kiss from someone who has earlier eaten nuts. Little children cannot be expected to understand and manage those risks.

Bruffin you are right, another adult friend of mine is allergic to latex and she had a reaction in a card shop where they sold balloons - so its not cut and dried really is it?!

Oh I can spell VEGAN, honest!

The nursery know they have child allergic to nuts
They asked no nut products be brought to nursery

Dont see a problem

I would imagine that if there was a child severly allergic to prawns they'd say no sea food, please

MyDD has a pal who's allergy can be triggered by passing near to nuts, so I wont recycle peanut butter jars

Meant to say I wont recycle peanut butter jars in the local bin where he may pass

In this case its not a blanket ban just in case
its a specific reaction to a child with an allergy

Are other allegens as likely to cause a reaction just by smelling them as peanuts are? That's why the ban on peanuts is a good idea IMO. Children should be able to feel safe at school - not complacent, just safe.

LRD - I think if it was a newspaper headline it would be 'Mums go nuts as nursery bans peanut butter'

Perhaps karma will bite them in the bum and their child will develop a nut allergy. I detest selfish people who can't bear to be put out one iota because of another person's needs.
I get epipen training every year, and the video that accompanies it always gets me stressed. It is harrowing, even though I've seen it a few times.

From what I can gather it's not the smell that can set off an allergic reaction in peanuts it's the dust they give off, which is unlikely in peanut butter or a nut bar etc more likely with a packet of peanuts which is very unlikely. You can have an anyphylatic response to any fruit or I have even heard of egg boxes.

You can become allergic to anything at anytime, so why don't we just ban nuts permantly from everywhere. My DS's allergies started when he was 4. I never even banned nuts in the house because they are healthy food, he had to learn to question everything, which he was more than capable from a very early age.

"can see both sides but as my son dosent take in these products (peanut butter) etc it wont effect me and is probably why i cant make an opinion on this."

Can see both sides? There isn't a BOTH sides!

The mear wiff of nuts can cause an ANAPHYLACTIC shock in some sufferers!

Come off the fence and support your nursery.

What I absolutely loathe is the attitude of the parents here. The attitude that no other individual matters as long as their child has exactly what they wants.

This nursery have acted to protect children, but they seem worried about trivialities. It's all warped.

I do think we need to protect tinies, yes, but I can also see why they are moving away from nut free zones for older DC. Our senior school doesn't have a ban, but I'm still in the mind set of no nuts as in primary. I wouldn't dream of sending them with nuts for lunch..

What selfish parents! How would they feel if it was their child with the allergy?

Idiots.

YANBU like valhalla said nursery age children can't manage the risks.

Do these stupid parents not realise a allergic person can die from their allergy?

An allergic reaction is a terrifying thing for a child to go through even with treatment.

Selfish ignorant twats.

Hmm I still support the outright ban. Being in the room with a snickers could set of a reaction for my sister - hence the school banning them - a reaction when in a room with something has to be treated differently to a reaction when eating something when it comes to preventing it.

My sister has a medical note which goes to any airline she flies with to stop peanut sales on that flight and understandably so. If she only reacted to eating them it wouldn't be needed though.