To have just fucking screamed at the man who put a leaflet through my door.

[Piggyleroux]

despite having a sign up saying "no junk mail/leaflets"

We must get at least five a day.

Ds has been poorly and none of us had any sleep last night. I got him off about an hour ago and this stupid fuckwit pushed pizza leaflets through my door waking ds up because the dog started barking.

I fucking flew at him. The language was not pretty. He pretty much legged it up the road.

Can they not read?

"I fucking flew at him"

Really?! The poor guy - I reckon most of these people are just posting through each door as quick as they can and each door kind of morphs into the same as the last door IYSWIM, Unless your sign had big bright flashing lights and a Warning Warning voice bellowing from it everytime someone approached your door then I'd quite safely assume that they guy just did not see it - not because he ignored it but to be fair, his job is to post leaflets, not report back on what he sees on his rounds.

IMO, the problem here is the dog barking everytime something comes through the door - very good security wise but not great for sleeping children, would you have "fucking flew" at the postman? It could have easily been something else that came through your door that did not have the appropriate signage.....

Anyway, my suggestion for you is this - get rid of your letter box on your door, and install a post box outside your door (lockable) That way nothing unwanted can be posted into your home and set the dog off barking.

I do hope your ds gets better and you manage to have a rest, consider my suggestion, I reckon it'd solve your problem here....

YANBU as I would have felt this way when I had young children, the HOURS I spent opening the curtain and glaring at taxi drivers who beeped their horns rather than get out at the pub next door, I wish I'd had a catapult to ping at their cars.

But YAB a little U, I'm currently working in a job that requires me to not only leaflet people but then come back and knock on their doors and ask impertinent questions, and every time a die I little on the inside, I used to have a very good job but public sector cuts have struck a lot of people, I'm working with ex forces, police, all sorts. In furture I have vowed to be nice to people who have to do jobs like this, you don't know what they used to do once, just that they have got off their bums to earn a small amount of money. I apologise resevedly if I have bothered any of you lot recently, I am so sorry to have disturbed people, thank god most are lovely and tolerate the intrusion. ( no dig at you OP, it's a bloody annoying thing!)

Having had ds go through a phase of being a really bad sleeper I do totally understand your frustration, but I think your reaction was over the top. Yes I would have felt like doing that too, but ultimately they didn't intentionally wake your child.

If that's a big problem would a letter box on your gate or similar be a solution?

YABU. It is vile to scream foul mouthed abuse at anyone - even worse than having such a limited and vulgar vocabulary that you use the same words in a post. What a lovely environment your ds must be growing up in.

can imagine that is hard lostinwales

It was YOUR DOG that woke your kid up, not the poor guy you shreiked at. Perhaps you should train either your dog or your child better, or indeed yourself.

I imagine you are tired but being a tired parent of a small child doesn't give you an excuse to scream at strangers.

It was YOUR dog that woke your son up, not the person putting a leaflet through the door.

It's just a bit of paper you can put in the recycling bin, chill out a bit. They're not dropping nuclear waste through the door

What Qualia said.

Maybe if you had a better trained dog you wouldn't have needed to "fucking fly" at anyone.

You sound like one of life's real charmers. Let's hope you never end up delivering takeaway leaflets to make a living eh?

YABU and you need to get a grip. How hard is it really to collect the leaflets that arrive and just dump them in your recycling bin next time you go outside? And what gives you the right to take out your bad mood on some poor guy just trying to earn a living? It's your dog that woke your baby up - not the person delivering the leaflets! It sounds as if both you and the dog would benefit from some anger management classes!

It's not the dog's fault. They are supposed to warn you people are at the door.

seems such a waste of paper to me all this junk mail

I wonder too about those emails you get - increase the size of your vitals, get medication for this and that etc Does anyone ever respond to those? I can't imagine it, seems like a waste of time or is there some other reason for those - planting computer viruses or soemthing sinister?

Seal your letterbox and get an external mailbox like this.

Problem solved.

It is grim ZZZen and every week we have a 'team briefing' [shudder] where the percentage of everyones refusals is shown to the whole group and we are given a little talk on how to get our refusal rate down, I actively dislike myself somedays. I spoke to someone last week who was obviously unhappy and really didn't want to carry on with the interview and I wanted to go back and put a card through the door to apologise for pressing her and hope she was feeling happier soon. I imagine a lot of these type of jobs are like mine, you have a target to hit and you want to be good at your job for your employer whilst feeling sympathy to the people who you are disturbing.

I can understand your frustration. Sometimes, I get so incensed that I sit down with the leaflets and ring every single company to tell them that their fly-tipping means that I will never, ever order whatever it is from them...

I have also been known to send collect up all the junk mail, wait till I get a reply paid envelope from another fly-tipping company... and send it all to them.

I have fly-tipping/littering issues, I think...

lostinwales... Sorry... it's hard to excuse my annoyance and flippancy when I read about the people behind the companies. :(

Is there a way of refusing whatever is being sold without hitting the distributors in the pocket?

I think 'screaming' at anyone in this manner is totally OTT. Is it your ladies week?

YABU and its just the guy's job, but you already said you feel bad so won't make it worse! Just get a bigger sign next time :)

we recently got a porch so now all the junk mail just gets chucked on our doorstep. straight in the recycling box. in fact, i should put the recycling box on the doorstep and save them the bother of throwing bits of paper at my front door.
nobodies fault your dog woke your ds up. what if it was the postman or jehovah's witness??

Our free paper gets delivered on a saturday morning. The girl delivers it at bloody 7am. This wakes the dogs and they wake the kids and the kids wake me up.

I want to kill her.

But then I think, pretty slick getting up so early to deliver your papers, doing a good job when even the post doesnt get here till 3pm most days.

I could put a sign up but it would have to be BIG one on the gate. By the time she got to the front door it would be too late.

I do sympathise OP. You were pretty mad though! Poor terrified junk delivery bloke

But I still get how you feel.

Mind you at least the leaflets are better than the phone calls...

Poor leaflet guy ... poor your DS ...poor you ~you are obviously very,understandably tired .

oh boy yes, the junk mail, the spam, the religious callers and the cold callers

sometimes I feel like hiding out in a cabin in the woods for about 5 years (tying in with when dd hits puberty)

Bimbo - that's offensive and you know it.

YABU. He wasn't to know that dropping a leaflet is going to wake a child up! We have one of those stickers and still get loads of leaflets. It is annoying, but doesn't warrant a reaction like yours.

Are there many people who can't read though?

YANBU

You have a sign, even people who don't speak english can learn a few useful phrases for the job they are being paid to do.

As for 'it could have been a child' - so what? If the child is old enough to be delivering leaflets they're old enough to read the signs.

LostInWales - I wish I was in a position to offer you a job you enjoy doing. Doing what you are doing is soul destroying. I try really hard, especially in this climate, to be really nice to anyone doing that kind of job. It's crap.

some I expect , don't know illiteracy statistics forthe UK but I could imagine most peope passed through schooling and are therefore generally literate to some degree but people come to the UK as adults without that background for instance and some people do go right through school without being able to read. It astonished me when I heard about it, but according to a documentary I watched once some time ago, it is not unheard of.