to ask if you use state or private education

[manicinsomniac]

Sorry, I know it's a little rude and personal but I only ask because I think that only 7-8% of the children in the UK are privately educated yet on mumsnet it seems to be massively higher than that which I find interesting.

So, if I'm not being too unreasonable to ask, do/did/will you use private or state education for your child/ren?

doley.

The tutor covers all the subjects my lo school teacher thinks los week in

We had a meeting and the school teachers passes on anything he thinks would be helpful

Also my Los talent seems to be reading at 11. Lo has a reading age of a 16 year old so tutor also works on this increasing his vocab and going in to greater depth with books

My Los tutor is an actually primary school teacher so is well versed in what needs to be taught

olifin I said Oxbridge in a daft attempt to retain anonomous. I've been outed by a journo before on here...but I probably often say too much and will have to name change again soon.

Actually I've just asked my Mum how she would have reacted if I'd said I wanted to be a hairdresser and she said would have been secretly horrified and tried to talk me out of it. Not only because she has had a barrelful of shit jobs in her time and has a lot to say about how lack of money means lack of freedom, particularly for woman, but also because she feels that an education is a thing worth something in itself whatever you end up using it for.

As for my own children, my expectations are extrememly high...only slightly below their own expectations tbh.

It seems to me that the pro-private people keep taking the argument back to the individual ('I made the best choice for my child, it's nobody else's business') whereas the pro-state arguments are more interested in society, and even in ideals.

I wonder why that might be?

I also wonder what would happen if somebody had said 'I chose state for my child not because I have anything against private schools, but where I live they all seem to be full of arrogant, unpleasant, pushy braying Jack Will-ites, and I am simply not prepared to risk the destruction of my child's character just so that she can acquire a passing knowledge of some Latin. And have wraparound care'.

thereis I think you can sleep easy on that score.

joan people on MN say that aaaaaaaalllllllllll the time.

Jack Wills??!! that is so 3 years ago around here..

Yes, broadly Jack WIlls is now for ten year olds here too... and the private schools.

joan to be honest though, I'd say 'spot on, I don't want my children being eductaed with a load of braying arrogant twits either'....which is why I have chosen the private schools I have.

Or are you saying that all privately schooled kids are braying twits?

Cos if you are, then I'll take my hat off to you at ebeing able to squeeze in meeting them all...what with all the MNing you do.

No, just the three independents I know here and one nearby.

state- we are lucky to have good secondary here. Would have considered private if the state school had been awful, but finances would have been tricky.

Well joan if you are willing to be so dismissive of so amny children most of whom I'm sure you have not met...then you and I take a very differnet view of what it is to be civilised.

And if you see yourself as the moral guardian of our children's future...you need to have a very long hard look at yourself and your opinions of children you haven't even met.

at Joan's attempt at stereotyping.

If all I had wanted was a passing knowledge of Latin, I could have managed that myself at home thanks, with the aid of a dictionary.

and there is not a school less likely than dd1's (or dd2's, if it comes to that) to be full of braying Jack Wills-clad children.

but, you know, carry on with your prejudice.

and no, I won't sacrifice my child's education for society's sake. why on earth would I? when choosing the right education for her will actually ensure she is a productive member of that society?

as for the wraparound care comment - if I could have both my children in one school, I wouldn't need it. but sadly, it is not possible for the state to actually attempt to educate dd1, and so she needs to go to school in the next county.

Oh no, Jack Will was at dd's public school 5 years ago, certainly no-one has worn it at her school for a good couple years, except maybe to sleep in.

Well those who want to scarce their own Childs education in some mis guided sense of justice is beyond me.

Do these people think mr and mrs chav give a shit weather or not their school is a sink school or not or about the social mix.

All they care about is the school is closer enough so they don't have to do the school run and that the head is shit so their kids can wear and behave how they like and won't be bothered on parents evening

My sons feeder school is a sink school(he won't be going their) and is being taken over by a outstanding school are the parents happy its being taken over like heck they do
They don't like the fact the new school demand grater parent involvement the fact that school uniform is mandatory and not the option it was before and the fact the children will be challenged if they are not behaving

The head at my los school has said he is so relived its been taken over as he hated the fact the feeder school was so bad any actually had to discourage year 6 parents from sending the children their which caused a bit of a who ha between the two schools but now he feels very positive about the school.

But he did tell me actually quite a lot of the old students parents had pulled their children out of the school because it had now become to strict lol

When your children are going to some tin pot uni and ours are at Oxford I hope you feel your scarf ice was worth it

For flip's sake, I wasn't even saying that, I was saying it wouldn't go down well if someone made a judgement based on the private schools near them in the same way as they do about state schools!

Am I to feel chastened that the private schools near me are a bit tupenny ha'penny then?

no, I can believe it, why not? do what you want

I'm just not seeing an argument for taking away the option for me to do what I want

there certainly isn't much of one here

one of my children will be at a state school, perhaps one half of me can't believe that the other half can imagine doing that

that probably does your head in

Maypole - you think parental input is the most important thing and that your children will be at Oxbridge while mine are at a 'tin pot uni'...... and yet you post like that?

I'll live with my scarf ice, I think.

but you dislike private schools and don't want them to exist Joan

I'm really not seeing an argument for that here at all, just a lot of mithering

Why wouldn't it go down well the facts are the facts my local state school is outstanding but if your local state school is shit whats the issue with saying so are are the majority of state schools .

Because if they were any good their wouldn't be the scrabble for the few decent state schools and private schools wouldn't be doing such a good trade

Not all private schools are good but I would take my chances with a bad private school than a bad state school because at least you know everyone t least wants a good education for their child

"Do these people think mr and mrs chav give a shit weather or not their school is a sink school or not or about the social mix." That is really not a very nice comment at all.

Mabs

You know me well Noddy :) I do hate these mass generalisations on both sides

thereis no it is not.

But at least it isn't about children.

It puts the blame squarely with the parents who don't care about their children's adeucation. And trust me, there are parents out there who really don't give a monkey.

I agree I had a horrendous experience at private school but as I always say on these threads if I took it that seriously I would have NO RL friends.(virtually)My ds is bone idle full stop. I was a nerdy studier but not to do with teh school I was just a bit of a prat!

lol at "destruction of my child's character"

how frightfully po