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to be unable to live with a msbp accusation?

96 replies

munchausens · 19/05/2011 19:59

Has anyone ever been falsely accused of munchausens syndrome by proxy or more commonly called fabricated illness syndrome now?

If so how do you live with it or recover from it? Has anyone been aware of this accusation and managed to clear their name? In particular anyone who has been accused of it for complaining about a misdiagnosis and challenging the professionals. How can you defend yourself as everything seems to make it worse as all defence makes one closer to the classic profile of the msbp mother!

I am scared to take my children to the doctor and petrified they might get injured. Yesterday I dropped the glass bottle containing my sons prescription and now have to ask for a new prescription so I have been distraught since for fear I am accused of overdosing him. We are not at a situation where the children have been put on an at risk register or any attempt has been made to take them but we just live in fear that this is being considered or that something could trigger this at any time.

For anyone who thinks it could never happen to them or there is no smoke without fire well I was totally the same and really believed this type of thing could never happen to a professional family living an extremely privileged life in a loving 2 parent family. Now I just think if someone like Sally Clark couldnt defend herself despite being a solicitor how can we.

If anyone has been in this situation and is able to offer advice or can point me in an appropriate direction for help I would really appreciate it.

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Toughasoldboots · 20/05/2011 21:03

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Oakmaiden · 20/05/2011 21:05

What, you would be fuming if you were a lawyer specialising in cases involving accusations of fabricated illness, and someone posted your on-line and publicly available business details to someone who may well be involved in a case involving one of your specialist subjects? Really, BogeyfaceHmm??

I would suggest that you would find it hard to find business if you did object to people passing on your website...

DENMAN03 · 20/05/2011 21:05

Bogeyface, what makes you conclude that the webpage is the OP? I read it as a link to someone who could help...
They put their details on the internet and are clearly intelligent enough to realise that they are in the public domain.

Oakmaiden · 20/05/2011 21:06

cross post too. Wink

Bogeyface · 20/05/2011 21:06

As I said to TAOB, i mistakenly thought that she was outing the OP and have apologised.

DENMAN03 · 20/05/2011 21:07

Sorry..cross post

ManicAnnie · 20/05/2011 21:11

OP, I have only skim-read this thread bt my gut reaction is - get legal representation and do it quickly. You need professional advice. This is outrageous.

edam · 20/05/2011 21:23

Op, I'm terribly sorry that you are going through all this stress and hope that you find some of the links posted or private messages helpful.

For the doubters, yes, none of us know the details of the OP's case. But MSbP is a bizarre 'diagnosis' that is very hard to defend yourself against - because saying 'that's not true' is taken as evidence of guilt. Even when something is a fact such as whether a father attended a meeting. It's like McCarthy-era America - if you've ever read or seen The Crucible it will ring a whole peal of bells.

I know a very eminent doctor, one of the most eminent in the country, who was appalled at the behaviour of social services in a case affecting one of his patients. Extraordinarily, the social workers involved had the effrontery to threaten him for failing to fall into line and support their false accusations.

macdoodle · 20/05/2011 21:26

OP I am sorry but I really dont understand what has happened. Your posting dont really make much sense to me. That may be your distress it may not.
Can you tell us what your son has been diagnosed with, and what the misdiagnosis was. What the complaint was? And what you have a history of complaining about. This can build up a suspcious picture I am afraid.
Have you actually been accused and if so by whom? Are social services involved.
I am afraid just not enough info to jump on the support bandwagon.

munchausens · 20/05/2011 22:03

Maddoodle - sorry but just to reconfirm I am not asking anyone to jump on a support bandwagon. I cannot post all medical details as the case is ongoing. Dont worry about understanding it as I am not asking anyone to determine my guilt.

I just want to speak to people who have been in a similar situation to help me cope and feel that it is not just me whilst I continue with the legal case.

It will not make sense to anyone who has not be involved in a msbp case. I would have been just the same thinking no smoke without fire.

Edam - thanks for this different viewpoint of a doctor defending someone.

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Ninxy · 20/05/2011 22:05

OP I was on a thread about a year ago, support for people who have had unfounded accusations levelled at them. I can't remember the name and it is dead but it might be worth reading. I'll try to find it and PM if that's okay?

TattyDevine · 20/05/2011 22:15

Just a quick post OP to offer support for what you are going through, whether you are "guilty" or not (I assume not) I think it can be an absolute minefield if you fall foul of medics / social services / anyone in the business of safeguarding children, basically. I think the general concept of safeguarding children is a good one, but it can have some pretty scary and severe ramifications if you come across wrong or odd or a-typical in some way that rings alarm bells with various authorities, whether rightly or wrongly.

I've had an experience with the NHS which was sort of the flip-side to what you are going through - my son was wrongly diagnosed with something I was certain he DIDN'T have. The consultant didn't believe me when I said he had none of the symptoms, and wanted to go ahead with treatment for something he didn't have and when I did not give my permission, I became very concerned that they were going to get social services involved and basically force my hand yet they wouldn't listen to me when I said that I spend all day every day with him and I know he doesn't have it. They didn't want to re-test, they just wanted to focus on me and why I didn't want to "face up to facts" etc etc.

In the end I went private. I found a wonderful private consultant that investigated and confirmed that my son did not have the condition, and he dealt with the consultant in the NHS hospital and got them to retest and indeed confirm he did not have the condition. Only then did they accept I was right and I relieved them of their services.

It was a scary time and I at times felt quite paranoid that they somehow wanted to get their hands on my son, that sounds bonkers but I was really upset and disillusioned at their inability to just listen to me and take what I was saying at face value.

Hang in there, and fight it if you feel you are being accused of something you should not. Keep it clean and legal and fair and have some faith that the truth will be revealed, I'd like to think it will all work out as it should for you.

Oblomov · 24/05/2011 19:30

I hope Tatty is right and the truth does prevail.
OP mentioned Sally Clarke. I think what struck me about her was her total despair, when she realised that the legal system she valued so highly could not help her. It too was that aspect of her story thta I found quite, well frightening really.
Feeling powerless and frightened is not nice. I felt that with my GP surgery. Shocks you to the core, and I'm not sure you ever quite get over it.
Hope things work out for you OP.

PrettyMeerkat · 27/06/2011 10:50

How's things OP?

turtle41 · 28/06/2011 15:46

hi only just seen your mess & joined up. I too have been investigated for MSBP. I was on Matthew Wright today. If still need to talk you may be able to help me. I've cleared my name but still have to get it removed from files and health records. Soon to put in a complaint to SS, Health and educ for educational negligence arising out of MSBP case. Know how u feel.

Bast · 28/06/2011 15:51

Roy bluddyfkin Meadows has so, so much to answer for.

Bast · 28/06/2011 15:54

I do not understand how a condition, named and coined by the very man struck off for falsely accusing mothers of the same, is still in use.

Unfuckingbelievable.

My thoughts are with you OP and turtle.

Bast · 28/06/2011 15:55

'is still in use' I should have said 'is still recognised'.

Grrr!

Lila71 · 21/01/2019 10:27

Hi
This is a very late reply, but my heart goes out to you. I had exactly the same experience. Your experience of ‘counselling’ which became a psychiatric evaluation mirrors my experience exactly. We also thought our referral to a paediatrician was for my sons cough, and suspected asthma, which our GP had diagnosed, it was actually to write a report regarding FII. The lies in the social services report numbered 16!
The nastiness and lies, terrible assumptions etc in the conference blew me away. Yes, I had asked my GP to consider their lack of empathy, and had written a letter of complaint after many problems with them. The following two years have been hell in many ways. My children need constant support and reassurance, both have taken a huge dip at school, and I have never recovered. We no longer have social services in our life, even though I now need help and support, almost funny. Yoga has helped me through it, but the trauma is still ever present. Love and support is the only answer to keep going.
Many kind thoughts to you.

Lila71 · 21/01/2019 10:34

Hi turtle
This is a very late reply, hopefully you haves moved forward long ago. My accusation led to a catastrophic unraveling to our entire life, including school, and shocking treatment by them as wel as by nhs and social services. The snowball effect was harrowing, frustrating and leaves you more paranoid and frustrated than anyone could imagine. Would be interested to hear more of your story?

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