To expect poo stain removal for £16 per hour

[LaurieFairyCake]

I have just got off the phone to my friend who has hired a new princess cleaner. She wasn't too impressed with the clean as the loos looked it hadn't been cleaned properly so she called the company up (think Molly Maid type thing):

Her: "I'm not too impressed as the loos still looked like they hadn't been cleaned properly"

Female Manager: pause "We don't clean loos Madam"

Her (stupefied): "Sorry, you don't clean the loos"????

Female Manager: "No, we can't have our maids do that as really that's up to the householder"

Her (totally flummoxed) : "Er, ok right - well, I guess the rest of the clean was ok"

and then she signs up for 4 hours a week at £16 per hour

When she phoned me up she seemed quite resigned to it.

I am totally [shocked]

I would expect the loos to be cleaned for £16 per hour.

Is that unreasonable? Fgs, care assistants in care homes round here get paid £6.75 an hour to do all sorts of heavy cleaning.

When did cleaning become so precious? And WHO EXACTLY do you need to hire to clean the loos? - Local council dramatically masked bio-hazard folk???

[LaurieFairyCake]

That's the difference - I don't think cleaning toilets or poo in any form is degrading - I did an elderly ward round when I trained and it was lovely to give someone dignity by cleaning them up.

[trixymalixy]

Have had cleaners for years and they have always cleaned the loo!!

[YellowDinosaur]

Your friend is being unreasonable to pay £16 an hour for a cleaner. Lunacy. I thought my cleaner was expensive at £25 for the whole house plus ironing (she spends about 3 hours) but given that she is great I was happy. To add on top of that the no toilet thing????!?!?!! Crazy.

[StealthPolarBear]

who cleans public toilets and how much do they get paid?
Actually not even that - cleaners at work seem to do the toilets without too much problem

[StealthPolarBear]

" I did an elderly ward round when I trained and it was lovely to give someone dignity by cleaning them up"

[diggingintheribs]

Laurie - that is such a nice thing to hear. But you were helping someone who couldn't help themselves. you were helping them regain their dignity.

If your friend was an elderly person incapable of giving their loo a quick wpe then yes - perfectly fine

but a poo-ey toilet owner is perfectly capable of cleaning after themselves, just as a dog owner is perfectly capable of disposing of the dog poo. It's just common decency I think

[DoMeDon]

Everyone can clean their own bog but if you pay someone to clean then they take that on as their job. Cleaners not cleaning - brilliant!!!

[FiteFuaite]

Klou111 £24 per jobby??!!

[dawntigga]

I pay 10 per hour and have mine cleaned.

My LadyWhoMakesMyHouseSparkle is fab!

LovesInAPlatonicWayTheLadyWhoMakesHerHouseSparkleTiggaxx

[aurynne]

I don't understand why cleaning a toilet is more "degrading" than cleaning the floors, washing the dishes or making beds. And yes, house owners can also do all those things... but if they choose to pay someone else to do it for them, I expect the paid person not to pick and choose what he/she cleans.

diggingintheribs, I clean my own dog's poo. But if I paid someone else to take care of the dog during the day and give her a walk, I would expect than person to pick up her poo too. Wouldn't you?

[trixymalixy]

FFS I am perfectly capable of cleaning my entire house myself, but I pay someone to do it and I expect that to include the toilet.

Jesus, what is it with princess cleaners, there was one a few weeks ago where the cleaner thought it unreasonable to clean a worksurface that had some food on it and a greasy cooker!!

[diggingintheribs]

Yes of course. I meant that people generally don't like to see poo, be it dogs or mans!

I just can't imagine people have poo lined toilets so often that they can't give them a quick clean. Even if you take the cleaner out of the equation - it's not very nice for the next person sing the loo either!!

[KLou111]

Pay for what you get. You hire a cleaner, you want your house to be clean, so you pay to have your house cleaned. Most people don't realise how long it takes to clean a house, as they go off how long it takes them, so assume that for £24 they're getting a couple of hours at least.
You can't quote per hour, every week can be slightly different to the other in respect of it might be cleaner one week than another. However, like I said, if you're doing it day in day out, same houses every week, you get into a routine, and quick, like I did. Must say, best thing I ever did setting up that business, and if we ever came back I would do it again without a doubt.
You can sod going to uni and training for years to earn the same sort of money lol!!

[KLou111]

but yes I agree, I think people are lazy if they don't wipe their own shit off the loo!!!!

[RevoltingPeasant]

You want degrading? - when I was a PhD student I worked behind a bar and one of my duties at the end of the night was to clean the men's toilets - now that's degrading.



We had a cleaner last year, paid her £10 an hour, she did loos. I always make sure the loo is not, er, marked every time I finish and do does DP, but I'd still expect her to clean.

[emsyj]

My friend was a veh important and senior property manager for a certain organisation that preserves stately homes (nod wink etc) and ended up having to pick up a whole poo off the floor of the men's loos when her cleaners told her that they were unwilling to deal with it.



Not relevant but hey.

[emsyj]

PS I would clean up poo for £16 per hour but would not (could not) clean up sick for any price.

[backwardpossom]

When I worked as a cleaner in the student union when I was a skint student, we used to look for puke from the night before so we got our £5 puke bonus in our pay for cleaning it up. Now that's degrading.

runs and hides

[emsyj]

£5 puke bonus??????



You win. That is the vilest thing I have heard ever.

[thisisyesterday]

but fabby you could say that about any household task couldn't you?

if we wanted to clean our own houses we wouldn't have cleaners

my cleaner does both my toilets for £10 an hour (south-east)

your friend has been "had"

[tallulahxhunny]

AIBU to admit that i love cleaning loos I used to be cleaning supervisor in a pub and I really enjoyed cleaning the loos, i think it was because its the one place that you notice the before and after IYSWIM not because i have some weird fetish lmao!!!

[Longtalljosie]

That's odd, I had Molly Maid round to quote, I know they do loos round here because we discussed what they used!

[trixymalixy]

Tallulah when I worked in a cafe I used to have to clean the toilets and would gladly swap with people whose turn it was as I preferred it to cleaning the cutlery or washing dishes. I thought it was just me that was weird!!

When I worked in a bar everyone fought over going to collect glasses at the end of the night as you usually found a dropped tenner. The pay off was that you had to clean up any puke. Bolk.

[nijinsky]

I must admit I only use cleaners occasionally for my rental properties, because they just haven't got them clean enough, but there would be no point whatsoever using cleaners for rental properties if they didn't clean loos.

Why be a cleaner if you are so precious about cleaning?