To get really pissed of with people using "mom" all the time?

[SherlockHolmes]

Heard it several times on the radio today, and people on here seem to use it willy-nilly. If you're American, or from the Midlands, then fine. If not, it's MUM. With a U in the middle.

Grrrrr.

HAHAHAHA

Cover up, dear, your ignorance is showing. American is already made up of French and German and Irish and all those other languages spoken by the people who fled to America because their home countries were persecuting them for their religion or other beliefs.

In my total novice opinion, in no way backed up by fact or research, mum comes from the way Ma'am is said to the Queen, so if you are a Republican, you should use mom in protest for the royal family controlling every aspect of your lives for hundreds of years.

And now I'm off to bed so don't be offended if I ignore your ignorant ranting until tomorrow at which point I will probably be bored with which way the thread goes and hide it.

georgie22 Anything further than Bristol is the North to me

Ooh Flounder there's a whole new world out there to discover then!! We're all up here saying mom and walking our whippets wearing our cloth caps!

Are you serious?

Its Mom. YABU

And whats with all the american bashing? Really if you dont want to use "americanisms" - assuming that they are - then dont.

YABU

Mum may be the norm to you but its a regional variation. Being dominant in the south doesn't somehow make it more British than Mam or Mom. Lots of 'American words' are just British words that haven't evolved over there so are in some ways more British than the British equivalent. Like gotten instead of got.

Birmingham is 52 degrees north. I know that cos of the bar in town. And it was the first place referenced in the Smiths panic. So if you were to try and split the country north and south, brum would be north innit?

YABU. Mom. :)

I'm not bashing Americans - as usual many of the people on this thread have missed the point entirely. It's a question of our language (for the purists I'm talking about modern British English) being inundated with Americanisms. Not American people. We have a lovely, quirky language and yes, it has to evolve but it's just a shame it's evolving so very quickly and in favour (with a u in it) of the American version of English.

Tee who clearly will be back to make sure she's been listened to, I know my facts, I have a degree in English. I also know about all those poor, persecuted souls who fled to America, who were then able to persecute the native Americans in turn.

okay

but how does OP know that posters are not A American or B Brummies?

(as specified in OP)

I actually remember being told by our history teacher that Mom was the original spelling, we kept the original spelling in the midlands when everyone else changed to Mum, he said it was because midlands were traditionally workingclass and proud and southerners wanted to think they were a cut above and closer to the queens/kings english.

But he did talk a lot of bollox tbf

FFS it's nothing to do with Americans! It's dialect!!!!

Pmsl at mom being used 'up north especially round Birmingham.' If I was to speak you would firmly place me' in the category 'northerner' (ie Oop north where t'mills were a couple o' hours down't m6 before you hit t'midlands, mi favoured mode o transports a bath on wheels) and I can assure you we say mum.

I don't mind Mom or Mum. Right now I'm just Mummy (does that mean I will be Mum later in life, or Mom?). I don't know why but I don't like Mam

ah now is the Midlands Mom summat to do with the Great Vowel Shift then?

Wow. If something like that gets your goat you've got some mega issues.

Anyway, I'm not a dead Egyptian. I hate the way mum or mummy sounds.

Am I allowed to be called momma then? Is that ok with you?

Yow dow know yow dow an I ay sayin MUM.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Midlands_English

Speaking to some of my DH's lot i need it translating, they are from the same bloomin town! the midlands is very diverse at wiki says

Arrrr sayin mom is not torkin wrung eh bab?

Yeah you are being unreasonable. Call your mother whatever you like. Get your own kids to call you whatever you like. And allow others to make the same choice.

I'm a Brummy, and use Mom. So I'm allowed, but I still think YABU.

im in the midlands and i use the word mom,its quite funny to be called a northener.

I think the OP used mom/mum as an example, as she goes on to mention 'butt' too (which is of course something you collect water in and not a fag end or an arse - not to me anyway!)

PMSL at the Midlands being up north. Isn't the clue in the name?

Ah jee do I get your permission to use the word mom? Seeing as I might be one of those posters who you've seen using it but I'm neither from the US or the midlands. Sunny SA uses the word mom - are we ok?

YABU - get over yourself, telling people who is or is not allowed to use a word. Grumble grumble grumble.

YABVVVU, OP. In fact, you're being a jerk. There's an Americanism for you.

And Happy Mothers Day to all the American and Canadian MOMS on MN! :)

OP, how can you tell if a poster is American or northern english or from somewhere you deem acceptable to use "mom", or if they are from an area where you feel they should be using "mum" but aren't?

Remember Mumsnet has an international membership, there's no such thing as our language, in terms of dialect or pronunciation, on here.

I'm not english, but I wouldn't dream of telling you that the way you pronounce some words is wrong, even if they sound wrong to me.

(BTW, it's "pissed off" )

Language evolves. Get over it. Or do you still speak in middle English too?