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Semi argument with friend over invitation to her house tomorrow and food being "shared" or not

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cheesesandwiches · 28/04/2011 22:21

Hi - I have changed my name for this in case I get told a few home truths and cannot take it. I have never posted on AIBU before and am a little nervous but here goes. It's going to sound ridiculous anyway but I was quite upset about it.

Tomorrow a friend of mine has an open invitation to go over to her house - she has three kids and so do I, all primary school age. It sounds like there might be two other families there, each with one child I think. She plans to do a bbq and as we are vegetarian warned me in advance (I suppose in case we decided not to go because of seeing the meat being cooked). Anyway, towards the end of our phone conversation about what time to come over etc... I mentioned that I would bring over cheese sandwiches for my kids and that if I managed to make 200 (exaggeration obviously) for everybody else too. She then very didactically asked me/told me to bring food over for everybody and not just my kids as she wants us to share all the food. She also told me that she would be making various things (nice adulty things) including bagels with cream cheese (there is an outside chance my kids would eat these, they are fussy).

I suppose I could have left it at that but her tone annoyed me and I said that I hadn't meant that my kids would hide in a corner and not share their food, just said they are fussy etc...

She then must have told me another once or twice or even three times that she finds it awkwark when people don't share food. I said several times that I had not meant what I said in that way but reiterated how fussy my kids are. After her last repetition of how awkwark she finds it and what she would prefer, I said that since my kids would not be eating anything from the barbecue and that others would be, they would need a few sandwiches each... The conversation then ended in a forced way and with me thinking that I no longer felt like going to her do tomorrow.

Thinking about it more rationally, I should have said that I would be bringing food for the adults to share (which I normally do, I am not mean about sharing food), and also said that I didn't think anybody would want a boring cheese sandwich which is the kind of food I give my kids when we are out and about and when I want to be sure that they will actually eat. This would be one way of making sure we could stay at her house longer without them getting whiny / hungry. What annoyed me about my friend is the way she talked down to me and told me what would be happening. I somehow felt unable to agree with what she was saying because her tone offended me. I hadn't even got to the part about what other food I might bring, in my head I was thinking of a way to ensure my kids could enjoy themselves at her house with a full belly. Additionally, when she first told me about the bbq she suggested I bring some vegetarian food on it - I suppose this would have been for me and my kids to eat while the others were eating meat so what is the difference between my bringing veggie food for the bbq and me bringing cheese sandwiches?

She has a thing in general about people not sharing food and I feel that she just fed my statement into her whole bugbear about people sitting separately with their own food. I bet that tonight she has been telling her husband that I wanted to bring my own food and not share it and that when she tried to tell me how wrong that would be I would not back down... She is a warm person in general and is one of the people who invites me over etc... but she talks about herself / her things incessantly without allowing other people much talking space, and has a tendency to be over prescriptive/didactic though partly this might be due to cultural differences.

Anyway, if you haven't keeled over with boredom, what do you think?

[Running away scared]

OP posts:
LostMyIdentityAlongTheWay · 29/04/2011 14:00

OP, I totally get it on the veggie issue - I would have offered maybe to bring something veggie to eat 'to save you having to think of that as well' (cos I won't touch anything unless, for example, I know it has veggie cheese in it, as well, iyswim, I'm full on veggie) but if you didnt' get an opportunity to say that, then it's a bit difficult, I agree.

A pp mentioned something like a comment saying 'wtf was I thinking, thanks for the invite', shoving a bottle of wine at her and giving her a hug... that should sort the whole thing out. Brilliant suggestion, say I.

Think you've had some rather harsh come back at one or two points, on here, to be honest. Hope it has all gone well - assuming it'll be over by the time you catch up with all of this!!
xx

DurhamDurham · 29/04/2011 14:25

In my experience....and I'm prepared to be flamed.............fussy children are fussier when their parents are with them saying ' she won't eat that......here's a cheese sandwich......she won't try new foods'

If there isn't a big deal made of it the children may eventually eat what everyone else is having. I wouldn't constantly serve food my girls don't like but I wouldn't be pandering to them either. I'd hate to be carrying cheese sandwiches around with me in case they don't like the food at friends houses.

amberleaf · 29/04/2011 14:29

Isnt there a difference between fussy and wont eat meat from the BBQ because they are vegetarians though?

I agree re fussy eaters BTW

GloriaSmut · 29/04/2011 14:45

I think that the OP was interrupted by the woman hosting the event before she'd had time to explain the situation properly and tell her that the sandwiches were in addition to other food she was bringing to share. Although I must confess that I'd probably expect my children to find something to eat at a BBQ even if they are veggie. Bringing their own sandwiches could look very crass and also come across as a judgement on the host's ability to lay on a decent BBQ. Even if that impression wasn't intended.

Soups · 29/04/2011 14:51

I agree with those who said it sounds likes she thought she knew what what you were saying before you said it and wouldn't let you explain or discuss .... Very irritating.

At BBQ's with my friends there's always a small throw away, or picnic BBQ, for the veggie stuff, any veggies bring a pack of anything to throw on it.

WhiteBumOfTheMountain · 29/04/2011 15:56

Durham is right imo. Parents seem afraid to risk a child going hunrgry a few times andinsist on fetching special food. It's irritating! The kids are vege..fair enough...but don't bring special foods which are in factjust cheese sarnies....when there wil be plenty of bread, chees and salad on offer anyway!

exoticfruits · 29/04/2011 16:40

I agree with Durham-if your DC won't eat it is hardly the end of the world-they can go hungry if they can't cope with what is on offer and eat when they get home. 9 times out of 10 they would eat if the mother wasn't there-they know that no one else is bothered.

DurhamDurham · 29/04/2011 16:51

Don't think I've ever been agreed with (twice) on MN before Grin

StatelyPoshBeartrothal · 29/04/2011 16:52

No I agree, don;t think you have either [cwink]

WhiteBumOfTheMountain · 29/04/2011 17:10

I disagree Durham you have been agreed with more than twice! There...now its more even! Grin

DamselInDisguise · 29/04/2011 17:11

The OP replied with: "I mentioned that I would bring over cheese sandwiches for my kids and that if I managed to make 200 (exaggeration obviously) for everybody else too". I'd've been pissed off with this as a response to a request to bring stuff to a communal BBQ. It doesn't sound like someone cut off in mid-flow; it sounds like someone with no intention if bringing communal food.

I also don't think there's anything wrong with suggesting veggies might prefer to bring their own BBQ food. Many people will have no idea what veggies might like on a BBQ and want to offer them the chance to eat something good alongside supermarket veggie sausages.

DurhamDurham · 29/04/2011 17:12

Well now I'm just confused...don't know whether I'm being agreed or disagreed with Grin Grin Grin

exoticfruits · 29/04/2011 17:15

I'm agreeing Durham-if OP were to leave her DCs with me for a week I guarantee they would eat what was put in front of them. Grin

Procrastinating · 29/04/2011 19:31

There is no way I would eat veggie food from a meat BBQ. Even if there are 2 BBQ's the cook always uses meaty implements to prod the veggie food.

exoticfruits · 29/04/2011 22:00

I think OP has already turned that down, but there must be lots of other things to choose from -bread, salads etc.

cheesesandwiches · 02/05/2011 00:18

Hi - was too scared to look at this thread until now but have seen that loads of people have said kind/helpful stuff and wanted to say thank you :)
in the end I brought two pizzas, two quiches and two bottles of lemonade to the bbq for everyone and no cheese sandwiches Grin!!!! Friend even phoned tonight and left a message with dh (he didn't come) to say thank you for the food Blush. She is definitely aware that we were having a tense conversation the evening before the do but we both just got on with things and it was fine. There was even a moment in the morning when they were passing round cream cheese sandwiches and there was definitely a bit of a suppressed giggle Grin.
Thanks again.

OP posts:
StatelyPoshBeartrothal · 02/05/2011 07:15

Glad to hear you have both managed to have a giggle about it :)
Your friend has strange barbecues - I'd argue they had a party with some barbecued food rather than "a barbecue" - but I'm just being pedantic!

cjel · 02/05/2011 10:03

So pleased it all worked out for youxxx

lesley33 · 02/05/2011 12:06

I don't think the host should be catering for everyone as some suggested. In my circle of friends it is normal to bring food to share. If the host provided something suitable for everyone this would make organising more stressful and much more expensive. Bring food to share makes it obvious that host won't cater for everyone.

You say what upset you most was her tone. The problem with this is that someone's tone can be upsetting, but there can be many valid reasons why someone's tone may seem "off". Being stressed or upset makes most of us come across more firmly than we may mean to. Different cultures will also use different tones than may seem polite in UK - after all this is much much more difficult to learn than other polite rules. I have friends from quite a few different countries and I just try to ignore any tone issues and concentrate on the words actually said.

It may also be that this is a difficult issue for her to raise with you and that affected her manner. I know when someone is annoying me that because I dread confronting them, that my manner can seem off. It is normally because I have put off confronting them for so long that it ends up sounding from my manner a much bigger issue than it really is.

Also re. veg food - as a carnivore child (and adult) I would always choose veggie things over meat. I have never been that keen on meat, although I ate it most days growing up. So don't assume that nobody will want your veggie food. It does make me wonder if the real issue is that you don't bring enough food for anyone other than your children and so rightly nobody feels they can eat any of the food you bring "to share". If this isn't the case sorry - but you do need to bring enough so that others - adults and kids, can eat some of it.

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