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Semi argument with friend over invitation to her house tomorrow and food being "shared" or not

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cheesesandwiches · 28/04/2011 22:21

Hi - I have changed my name for this in case I get told a few home truths and cannot take it. I have never posted on AIBU before and am a little nervous but here goes. It's going to sound ridiculous anyway but I was quite upset about it.

Tomorrow a friend of mine has an open invitation to go over to her house - she has three kids and so do I, all primary school age. It sounds like there might be two other families there, each with one child I think. She plans to do a bbq and as we are vegetarian warned me in advance (I suppose in case we decided not to go because of seeing the meat being cooked). Anyway, towards the end of our phone conversation about what time to come over etc... I mentioned that I would bring over cheese sandwiches for my kids and that if I managed to make 200 (exaggeration obviously) for everybody else too. She then very didactically asked me/told me to bring food over for everybody and not just my kids as she wants us to share all the food. She also told me that she would be making various things (nice adulty things) including bagels with cream cheese (there is an outside chance my kids would eat these, they are fussy).

I suppose I could have left it at that but her tone annoyed me and I said that I hadn't meant that my kids would hide in a corner and not share their food, just said they are fussy etc...

She then must have told me another once or twice or even three times that she finds it awkwark when people don't share food. I said several times that I had not meant what I said in that way but reiterated how fussy my kids are. After her last repetition of how awkwark she finds it and what she would prefer, I said that since my kids would not be eating anything from the barbecue and that others would be, they would need a few sandwiches each... The conversation then ended in a forced way and with me thinking that I no longer felt like going to her do tomorrow.

Thinking about it more rationally, I should have said that I would be bringing food for the adults to share (which I normally do, I am not mean about sharing food), and also said that I didn't think anybody would want a boring cheese sandwich which is the kind of food I give my kids when we are out and about and when I want to be sure that they will actually eat. This would be one way of making sure we could stay at her house longer without them getting whiny / hungry. What annoyed me about my friend is the way she talked down to me and told me what would be happening. I somehow felt unable to agree with what she was saying because her tone offended me. I hadn't even got to the part about what other food I might bring, in my head I was thinking of a way to ensure my kids could enjoy themselves at her house with a full belly. Additionally, when she first told me about the bbq she suggested I bring some vegetarian food on it - I suppose this would have been for me and my kids to eat while the others were eating meat so what is the difference between my bringing veggie food for the bbq and me bringing cheese sandwiches?

She has a thing in general about people not sharing food and I feel that she just fed my statement into her whole bugbear about people sitting separately with their own food. I bet that tonight she has been telling her husband that I wanted to bring my own food and not share it and that when she tried to tell me how wrong that would be I would not back down... She is a warm person in general and is one of the people who invites me over etc... but she talks about herself / her things incessantly without allowing other people much talking space, and has a tendency to be over prescriptive/didactic though partly this might be due to cultural differences.

Anyway, if you haven't keeled over with boredom, what do you think?

[Running away scared]

OP posts:
amistillsexy · 29/04/2011 09:30

cheese, Your friend is catering for 20? She is probably stressed up to the eyeballs with the organisation and expense of it all. It sounds a s if she started with a vague idea that everyone would come round and have a laugh watching the wedding, then it's snowballed into her catering and feeding the 5,000! She doesn't want to know what you're bringing or why. She just wants to hear you say
'Yes, I'd love to come, and I'll bring a large portion of something savoury/sweet to share'.

I hate fussy eaters (and I have 3 [chmm]), but they are NOT given anything other than the family meal to eat. I refuse to listen to whiners and if they complain too loudly/long about what's on their plate I take it away and tell them to go hungry (they invariably ask for it back and eat it without another word [cgrin] ).

I love cooking for friends, and having large numbers of children/adults over for big family meals but find it very tedious when other people's kids are fussy and the meal is taken over with parents offering all sorts of alternatives. I find myself dying to say 'Just leave the child and enjoy the meal I've spent all day preparing!' [cangry]

I really think your friend has enoughto think about, and hearing about what special food your DCs were going to have to eat just pushed her over the edge. Apologise for stressing her when you get there, give her a hug and a bunch of flowers to clear the air and enjoy the day (without cheese! [cgrin])

exoticfruits · 29/04/2011 09:31

Of course DCs eat what is put in front of them if there are no alternatives and no snacks. It also helps if you don't give any attention over it and refuse to discuss it. Serve it and remove it uneaten without comment.

DCs wouldn't whinge at a BBQ if they knew no one was going pay the slightest attention. I expect OP knows that if they were there without you they would get on and find something to eat, but that they will whinge to you and you will sort it.

Vallhala · 29/04/2011 09:32

"My experience with ds has been that if he doesn't like something he will literally starve"

Literally? Hmm

And sorry, but stating that you don't believe something which parents say and which is completely accurate in this household clearly was "news for you".

I have more news for you. My teenaged, vegetarian, un-pandered to children have not starved because they've been brought up to eat what they're given or go without.

cheesesandwiches · 29/04/2011 09:33

moondog - we were never going to eat our "miserable" cheese sandwiches in the corner - I have just explained that it wasn't really put forward to me as an invite - more come along if you like and THEY would be having meat on a barbecue..... anyway, I can explain till I am blue in the face
of course I will eat what is on offer I always do, and I always bring other food too, I was thinking about my kids in this case - plus it is only after I had mentioned the sandwiches that she told me she was doing other stuff!!!!!
I certainly don't need to teach my kids to put up or shut up, they are lovely kids and it is not unusual for kids to want to eat plain foods

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squeakytoy · 29/04/2011 09:35

Genuine question here for the veggies. If your children asked to try a sausage or a bit of chicken, would you allow it?

iscream · 29/04/2011 09:35

We don't mind at all having a section on the barbeque for ds and his gf's veggie dogs and burgers.

Go have fun, it is much ado about nothing!

moondog · 29/04/2011 09:37

I've got a good friend like this.Her kids are miserable ungrateful little swines. Everything on offer at my last bbq was sneered at very loudly. Drinks, salads, all kinds of meat, despite there being an enormous selection. They piled their plates high then pushed them away. The mother pandered and indulged (as opposed to taking them round the corner and ordering them to behave or else as I would have done.)

Eventually I came in to my kitchen and fonud her helping herself to bread and jam for them.

They don't get invited around anymore needless to say

cheesesandwiches · 29/04/2011 09:41

My kids are not miserable ungrateful little swines. This whole thing is a storm in a teacup (started by myself Grin). I think the whole debate about fussy eating versus non fussy eating is an interesting one but no time now! It may be that people behave more similarly than they think but talk about it differently anyway.

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Vallhala · 29/04/2011 09:43

No, squeaky, absolutely not. :)

amistillsexy · 29/04/2011 09:43

moondog, I've had exactly the same situation with an (ex)friend of mine. I've even made the food she suggested her children would eat, only to have them refuse very rudley (comments such as 'that's disgusting'), have a paddy at the table, storm off and be chased by both parents to be placated, and then have them make the children different food, all while I was still sitting at my table with the delish meal untouched!

Ridiculous behaviour!

(not at all suggesting this is the case with OP, just adding as an anecdote!)

Chandon · 29/04/2011 09:43

I think you are bit U.

And I also think you are pandering to your kids too much.

take them a sandwich, by all means, if that is all they would eat.

In your shoes, I would have offered to bring a nice big plate of something vegetarian for all to share (after all, people who eat meat also like vegiie stuff, and it'a always fun to share food). I think this is what she suggested too.

By just bringing a few (mean) little sandwiches instead you are a bit of a party pooper IYSWIM?

I would find it odd if people came to eat at my house, and brought a few things that were NOT to be shared.

And no, you should not have brought sandwiches for everyone, that would have been odd and not very festive, but maybe a big cous cous salad, or roast veggies, as contribution to the meal.

And then you should have privately dealt with your fussy kids. That is a separate issue. Not a reason for you to be antisocial.

Prunnhilda · 29/04/2011 09:53

I think you have both wound each other up.
Whenever I've had people round who want to bring food for their own dietary needs, they do always share and I don't think anyone has ever said they'd bring just for themselves - it's somehow antisocial, isn't it, when eating is such a part of getting together?
If I were your friend I might be a bit stressed about the complications of feeding people with different needs (contrary to what vegetarians seem to think, it is not that easy to think of fully vegetarian and interesting food when you are so used to cooking with meaty bits) and I am sure I'd be a bit off with you as well, for a combination of the above.

tyzer2001 · 29/04/2011 09:56

I think most of you have failed to read the OP's post properly. She didn't say she'd only bring a 'few mean little sandwiches' for her kids. She got as far as saying 'I'll bring some cheese sandwiches for my fussy little sods' and before she could go further and ask what else to bring, her friend leapt down her throat.

Also suggesting that her kids are 'miserable ungrateful little swines' like the others you know is really unnecessary.

OP - I agree that you have let yourself get more upset than you needed to, but sometimes other stresses blur our vision and we sweat the small stuff. Go to the BBQ with some stuff your kids will enjoy and something to share with the others, and have a good time. If you don't go, it will cause a real rift in your friendship. If you're still smarting over her attitude, wait until another, quieter day, and say to her 'By the way, I know it's all in the past but I was a little hurt by the misunderstanding we had' etc etc.

TheSecondComing · 29/04/2011 10:08

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HecateQueenOfTheNight · 29/04/2011 10:32

I hate it when people talk over me and don't listen to what I am actually saying because they have already decided what it is I am saying - even if I am not saying that!

And it sounds to me like that's what she did.

I would also be a bit miffed about that, OP.

It's just not nice when someone isn't listening to what you are saying and had decided you are saying something else entirely.

StatelyPoshBeartrothal · 29/04/2011 10:34

Exactly Hecate!!

StatelyPoshBeartrothal · 29/04/2011 10:35

It is a lovely day for a bike ride, you are right.

MCos · 29/04/2011 12:44

Hi OP, don't beat yourself up over it.

Many people have FFS moments with friends, sometimes it spills out in the tone of conversation. Not ideal, but it happens. Just put the conversation behind you, and have fun at the BBQ.

FabbyChic · 29/04/2011 13:00

Why not feed your children before you go so they wont be hungry surely that would solve the problem?

shitmagnet · 29/04/2011 13:04

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cjel · 29/04/2011 13:05

blimey ,you don't deserve all this crap. I bet there isn't one poster who doesn't makes choices about what they want to eat or not. even the most adventurous foodie has likes and dislikes. hope you have had a good timexxxx

amberleaf · 29/04/2011 13:25

How the fuck is giving vegetarian kids vegetarian food 'pandering' to them?

I dont blame you wanting to take sarnies as whenever ive been to a similar 'do' the vegetarians option always gets scoffed by uas piggy meat eaters too.

A host should have something suitable to offer to all their guests but if its too much and its an informal thing like a BBQ they shouldnt be offended by someone bringing a sarnie.

elmofan · 29/04/2011 13:32

It sounds to me like this has all just been blown out of proportion by your friend
Cheese . My children are very fussy eaters too(ds especially) but like you whenever we go anywhere i pack a lunch for him and bring platers of food along to add to the table .
I hope you end up enjoying the BBQ Smile

amberleaf · 29/04/2011 13:34

us piggy meat eaters

chocadoodle · 29/04/2011 13:53

I wouldn't expect anyone to have to bring anything food wise if I was hosting a party.

I would've liked to have had a party at ours but finances are tight so didn't. I wouldn't dream of inviting people and then asking everyone to bring food. I was pleased to be invited to someone elses (going shortly) but a bit Shock when asked to bring specific food as well after I'd already said I was bringing some alcohol.

IMO if you can afford to or be arsed to provide all the food for all guests (veggie or not) go ahead and have a party. Most guests bring wine/beer/non-alcoholic refreshments anyway. If you can't afford it or be arsed to prepare it all yourself don't have a party. Asking your guests to bring food for everyone is a hassle to the organiser and the guests which is why you and your friend are both annoyed.

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