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Semi argument with friend over invitation to her house tomorrow and food being "shared" or not

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cheesesandwiches · 28/04/2011 22:21

Hi - I have changed my name for this in case I get told a few home truths and cannot take it. I have never posted on AIBU before and am a little nervous but here goes. It's going to sound ridiculous anyway but I was quite upset about it.

Tomorrow a friend of mine has an open invitation to go over to her house - she has three kids and so do I, all primary school age. It sounds like there might be two other families there, each with one child I think. She plans to do a bbq and as we are vegetarian warned me in advance (I suppose in case we decided not to go because of seeing the meat being cooked). Anyway, towards the end of our phone conversation about what time to come over etc... I mentioned that I would bring over cheese sandwiches for my kids and that if I managed to make 200 (exaggeration obviously) for everybody else too. She then very didactically asked me/told me to bring food over for everybody and not just my kids as she wants us to share all the food. She also told me that she would be making various things (nice adulty things) including bagels with cream cheese (there is an outside chance my kids would eat these, they are fussy).

I suppose I could have left it at that but her tone annoyed me and I said that I hadn't meant that my kids would hide in a corner and not share their food, just said they are fussy etc...

She then must have told me another once or twice or even three times that she finds it awkwark when people don't share food. I said several times that I had not meant what I said in that way but reiterated how fussy my kids are. After her last repetition of how awkwark she finds it and what she would prefer, I said that since my kids would not be eating anything from the barbecue and that others would be, they would need a few sandwiches each... The conversation then ended in a forced way and with me thinking that I no longer felt like going to her do tomorrow.

Thinking about it more rationally, I should have said that I would be bringing food for the adults to share (which I normally do, I am not mean about sharing food), and also said that I didn't think anybody would want a boring cheese sandwich which is the kind of food I give my kids when we are out and about and when I want to be sure that they will actually eat. This would be one way of making sure we could stay at her house longer without them getting whiny / hungry. What annoyed me about my friend is the way she talked down to me and told me what would be happening. I somehow felt unable to agree with what she was saying because her tone offended me. I hadn't even got to the part about what other food I might bring, in my head I was thinking of a way to ensure my kids could enjoy themselves at her house with a full belly. Additionally, when she first told me about the bbq she suggested I bring some vegetarian food on it - I suppose this would have been for me and my kids to eat while the others were eating meat so what is the difference between my bringing veggie food for the bbq and me bringing cheese sandwiches?

She has a thing in general about people not sharing food and I feel that she just fed my statement into her whole bugbear about people sitting separately with their own food. I bet that tonight she has been telling her husband that I wanted to bring my own food and not share it and that when she tried to tell me how wrong that would be I would not back down... She is a warm person in general and is one of the people who invites me over etc... but she talks about herself / her things incessantly without allowing other people much talking space, and has a tendency to be over prescriptive/didactic though partly this might be due to cultural differences.

Anyway, if you haven't keeled over with boredom, what do you think?

[Running away scared]

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nometime · 28/04/2011 23:25

Why don't you forget the BBQ bit and take a pudding that everybody can eat veggie or not / kid or adult?

Solves the problem that it is just for you or just for kids.

Chill and enjoy.

Maryz · 28/04/2011 23:28

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HeadfirstForHalos · 28/04/2011 23:46

I'm glad my 4 aren't that fussy! I wouldn't prepare cheese butties to take to a bbq (though I would ask if we needed to bring veggie sausages/burgers etc as we are veggie too), and if they didn't eat, well TOUGH! Grin. They would eat anything veggie on offer though, the bagels etc sound fine

TheSecondComing · 28/04/2011 23:55

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bleedingstill · 29/04/2011 00:17

Your friend is slightly pissed off that your pandering to your fussy children is over riding her hospitality.

She wants you to bring plenty cheese sandwiches in an exasperated "well if you must pander to your fussy children by bringing plain food lets at least make it look like it's part of the buffet for all"

lucky24 · 29/04/2011 00:20

I hate having to share food.

I am vegi too and others will often eat the vegi stuff aswell as the meat stuff and i dont get enough, i like my food.

Put the food out and then when its time to eat get to the table first and put the chese butties on you DC plate. Make an extra few butties and cut them in to quarters so others can have a bit if they like. But i doubt abyone else will wont a whole chese butty when they have other bbq food

desperatelyseekingsnoozes · 29/04/2011 00:27

I think you should offer to barbecue your sandwiches .

cat64 · 29/04/2011 00:33

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Oakmaiden · 29/04/2011 00:38

It sounds to me like the conversation was embarrassing her too - that she had made the request and then kept trying to justify it because she thought you thought she was being unreasonable.

None of us are perfect. Take sandwiches (or not) and enjoy the barbecue.

desperatelyseekingsnoozes · 29/04/2011 00:44

sorry c not q, posting pissed on an iphone does not work.

I have now had a coffee and can see my error

desperatelyseekingsnoozes · 29/04/2011 00:44

no q not c.

Cutiecat · 29/04/2011 00:59

I think YBAU as your friend is obviously trying to cater for your special diet and your response is that you will take some thngs just for your kids. It sound so me like you are pandering to your kids way too much. Bet it has been winding her up for ages. Take some other stuff that everyone can enjoy and if you kids just eat hula hoops all afternoon so be it.

I do understand when people are more upfront and say what they think it can be upsetting. I have a SIL like this who when she first came on the scene really upset me but over time i see that she is just like that and thinks nothing of asking personal questions or making commments. I have just become tougher to it and now if she asks me something i think is invasive i just ignore it or reply 'that's a very personal question'. Seems to do the trick.

sunnydelight · 29/04/2011 02:54

If people have fussy kids I far prefer they bring something they will eat rather than being faced with kids whining because they are hungry but doing that whole "I don't like that" thing to everything offered , or being expected to make
something special for them.

As you say your friend is quite direct and maybe she was just thinking "oh FFS I'm doing a bbq and she's bringing sandwiches rather than barbie food" and let it show rather than doing the British thing and being pissed off silently!

hairfullofsnakes · 29/04/2011 07:12

I don't get why people like loopyloopd would be offended by cheese Sarnies?!!! If it is what your kids eat and it guarantees they eat why is it a problem?!

Did you say you would bring some other food too? It sounds like your friend can be a bit pompous in her manner but there's nowt as queer as folk and we all have our funny traits so just try and let it slide

Procrastinating · 29/04/2011 07:24

Agree with Lucky24. I would be taking my children their own food. If you put your sandwhiches out to share and everyone eats them what are you supposed to do for the dc? The vegetarian food goes first in my experience, have been hungry at many a buffet.
But I would take a big plate of things to share too.

She was being rude; her party, her rules by the sound of it.

squeakytoy · 29/04/2011 08:28

I would have done something veggie for the kids, and taken it with me, so the kids could actually join in with the spirit of being at a bbq.

Kebab skewers with peppers/mushrooms/onion/haloumi are really easy. Or I would have offered to bring some pasta salad, or garlic bread, ie something that would be part of the bbq spread.

Cheese sandwiches are the most boring plain unimaginative thing I can think of tbh.

cheesesandwiches · 29/04/2011 08:47

Hi everybody and thanks for all your thoughts. Upon reflection (subconscious must have been working during the night!) I think the problem is that when she first suggested coming over she mentioned nothing about food - just a come and hang out kind of thing. Then when I confirmed with her yesterday (it is kind of an open invitation to her house which she has been bandying about) she told me that THEY would be having meat on a bbq and she hoped I didn't mind. She then did later suggest (in a subsequent conversation) that I brought something veggie to put on it and I did consider this but I can't ask her to have a veggie friendly side to her bbq and veggie friendly utensils and don't want to have meat juice on the veggie food - maybe only veggies would understand this. I didn't say this to her.
The fact that she is also making some other food, she mentioned to me after I had mentioned my blooming cheese sandwiches which I am now not going to bring as am sick of the thought of them! However agree I should have thought of this and in fact I now have, I think I didn't quite get the whole plot and it wasn't presented to me as a formal invitation ifyswim, rather a come over if you would like kind of thing.
Anyway, I always bring things to people's houses for everyone and have brought stuff to her house before.

It is mainly my ds who is fussy and I guess he is the most "pandered" to. The two dds are more flexible. My friend is very proud of saying that her kids eat whatever is put in front of them because they are not given any options - I never totally believe this when parents say this and even she has admitted that they pander more to their youngest. I don't think my attitude to my kids and what they eat has been eating away at her as it were because we are rarely in an eating situation together - however she is aware of it yes. I'm sure she has an opinion about it but she is very opinionated in general.
Agree that cheese sandwiches are boring and think I was thinking in "survival" mode rather than a "let's go and have fun mode" - think I am feeling preoccupied about other things in my life (very important essay that I am supposed to be working on which is due in about 22 days, and fact that my relationship with dh is non-existent) and can't relax. Don't want to turn into a miserable cow.
So am now going to bring fruit, a few snacky things like cheese sticks etc, maybe a quiche?, drink and possibly something sweet for everyone to share... Don't know if I should run this by her first or just turn up with it. Am slightly worried that if I tell her she will run another injunction/lecture by me. Also that she is offended by yesterday's exchange but hey - I can take it.
It has been interesting posting on aibu - a bit like being in group therapy (which I have never done) where the negative and positive bits of your personality and thoughts are reflected back at you and you have a chance to be made aware of them and work on them if you want to.

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Vallhala · 29/04/2011 09:03

"My friend is very proud of saying that her kids eat whatever is put in front of them because they are not given any options - I never totally believe this when parents say this..."

Whyever not? Hmm I've got news for you... in this house, it's true!
My DC are lifeling vegetarians too but they're not fussy because they learned years ago that this means you go hungry.

Vallhala · 29/04/2011 09:04

"My friend is very proud of saying that her kids eat whatever is put in front of them because they are not given any options - I never totally believe this when parents say this..."

Whyever not? Hmm I've got news for you... in this house, it's true!
My DC are lifeling vegetarians too but they're not fussy because they learned years ago that this means you go hungry.

squeakytoy · 29/04/2011 09:11

I agree with Vallhala there, even though we are not veggie. It was the way we were brought up, you eat what you are given, even if it isnt your favourite. There was never enough money in our family to pander to fussy eaters, and thats the way I carried it on. It would also have been considered very rude to not eat what a host had made, and if I had veggie guests coming, I would cater to them too, its really not difficult to do. and it can be done without any cross-contamination.

yoshiLunk · 29/04/2011 09:17

I agree with Vallhala too, - i can understand if you know yours are fussy then bringing cheese sarnies for an easy life is not an unreasonable thing to do but I would have been quicker to add the offer "what other stuff can I bring along to throw into the mix?"

Then you would have been making it clear that you're contributing something for everyone to enjoy.

cjel · 29/04/2011 09:24

well done cheese, you sound like you were just both pre occupied and phone conversations can go wobbly. just turning up taking loads of different things is great idea, I am fussy eater (am 51) and friends always know I have sandwich/ banana or something in my bag 'just in case'!! Go loaded up, big smiles and thanks for invite and enjoy!!!!

cheesesandwiches · 29/04/2011 09:27

Yes I should have said what can I bring to add to the mix but her tone annoyed me so much that I'm afraid I couldn't get past the whole ridiculous cheese sandwich thing. But I am always generous with food and she has seen this so... I really and truly have lost the will to go :(
My experience with ds has been that if he doesn't like something he will literally starve - it may be that we could have been firmer when he was a toddler but he was our first so I suppose we were learning. He is not as bad as some kids I have heard of as he has about 3 or 4 "dishes" he eats plus fruit and yoghurt. Surely even the parents of non-fussy eaters generally make what they know their kids like, within reason?
I never said I was not going to eat what my host is going to make. I also realise that she could cater to us without any cross contamination but don't feel in a position to ask her to do this (I would bring the veggie stuff).
Anyway, feeling fed up now and dislike the "I've got news for you" tone of things..... I'm sure some of the parents who say their kids are not fussy are telling the truth, but I still don't think all of them are.

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moondog · 29/04/2011 09:27

Jesus.what happened to basic good manners?
You go to someone's house and you EAT WHAT IS ON OFFER and if you don't like it you shut up and smile anyway.

You need to teach your kids to put up or shut up. If you were a guest in my house, eating your miserable cheese sandwiches in the corner, you wouldn't get an invit again, that's for sure.

cheesesandwiches · 29/04/2011 09:29

Thanks for your kind message cjel which I missed. Anyway, must get ready now as have been told I have to arrive between ten and ten thirty. The more I think about it the more I feel like canning the whole thing but too late for that now...

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