to thing that having child number 5 when living in a small 2 bed flat is unfair to all the children.

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I totally understand that it is in all honesty none of my business how many kids people choose to have, as long as the parents can provide from them. However I really do find it a bit hard to get my head around how one family of 4 kids 2 adults could fit into a 2 bed flat before but last week they came home with baby number 5.

I just don't get how the parents feel this arrangement of 4 kids (oldest child is 13, some boy some girls) sharing a bed room is healthy. They must have no real play space or personal space. I just don't understand why you would want to bring another child into that?

I feel so sorry for the new couple who live below to as the noise from so many feet run around must drive them mad. I don't think that any one has lasted more the 9 months in the flat bellow for years.

I just don't understand they see nothing wrong this having still more without moving it?s not fair on any of the kids.

It is alll good then, can we leave it there.

All circumstances are different. I grew up in a tiny 2 bed 4 roomed council house with mum, my sibling and my grandparents. I shared a room with MY MOTHER until I was 18 and able to leave home. Can you imagine how crap that was? I never wanted to bring any friends home, no privacy from my parent as a teenage girl. It was horrendous. Unfortunately not made bearable by nice surroundings either, only a dirt poor council estate in outer london hell. I would have loved to have someone say my circumstances weren't acceptable and for us to have been offered a larger home.

But I can't can I because I do not know anyone that has shared.

I don't think you're being unreasonable. Not a fashionable opinion I know but hey ho. Interesting to see how the children go as adults - two kids each at the most maybe - who knows, but I think some people just love having babies and all the attention etc it brings but forget you have a child at the end of it, forever.

Nhscutback - :( That does sound far from ideal.

Ok, so my well-balanced, happy, loving, joy-filled children are deprived because we live in a one bedroom flat??

I think sharing is quite reasonable and my dds shared when they were younger but them each having a bedroom makes a difference and having more space is great now they are teenagers as our downstairs is also bigger.

We are not particularly well off but I think personal space is important and makes life easier.

Kerry what thread were you supposed to be posting on? It sounds, erm, interesting!

I was wondering the same thing chipmonkey ! :)

me too