To think that the landlord of the pub in Soho was within his rights to ask the couple to leave?

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We've all seen the story. It seems to me that it's completely blown out of all proportion in exactly the same way that the couple with the B&B did not want gay couples staying under their roof.

If you were sat in a pub/restaurant and a heterosexual couple started getting steamed up, kissing passionately, hands all over each other, you'd be like 'Get a room' or 'take it outside'. I personally would move to another seat, I don't want to see it, straight or gay.

I think you should be allowed to ask people to move/leave for whatever reason if there is no prejudice and think this is another classic example of bleeding heart lefties using tactics to make the majority feel like the minority.

AIBU?

Hazel- Apology accepted as I am not anti-gay. Thanks for your interest.

'bleeding heart lefties' made me laugh, you daft troll-y person

I doubt the law will make much difference, but I suspect many of us who used to go to the John Snow will either boycott it, or go there and spend an awful lot of time gratuitously snogging (a load of people went last night to do this). He was being blatantly homophobic. He's an idiot, but to be honest his worst problem now will be his nose-diving profits and relentless leg-pulling.

I quite like the idea it'll now be the pub that everyone goes to kiss in. Serves him right. Why are people so uptight about affection?

LOTM, I said I would apologise if I were wrong. I am not yet convinced that I am wrong. Convince me?

LOTM, I know because of the reports of other people who use the pub, and were present during the incident.

I only asked if you were North African, because that would mean you probably had some experience of men hugging and touching in a way that would have been seriously misconstrued in most of England in the late '70s.
Which was where my example of discrimination came from.

Aha, quick bit of searching confirms my thinking (re LOTM's bias):

Top post HERE

LOTM wrote: I'm a Christian...and while I think, according to Scripture, that homosexuality is wrong, I don't hate homosexuals...just let them get on with life as they see fit...I don't try and "convert" them anymore than they do me.

I wouldn't allow them to sleep under my roof if I owned a hotel.

That's precisely why I'm not in the hotelier industry. " end quote

Nope, deffo no need to apologise for me!!!

i dont enjoy watching people of any gender slobbering over each other

i think the landlord was fully within rights to ask them to tone down their behaviour if it was upsetting others

Yes Hazel, I am not anti-gay. I don't think gays ought to be humiliated publically, I don't think gays should be stoned to death...just let them get on with their lives. I don't approve of homosexual relationships (note relationships and not homosexuals full stop) IN MY HOUSE, I don't approve of drunks IN MY HOUSE for that matter. Which is why, like I said, I don't own a hotel/BnB and or pub. I wouldn't like to get caught up in the red tape.

I think as it was in SoHo, you know you're going to see some 'sights'. It's not like it was a quaint thatched pub in deepest Dorset.

DDD, it is the landlord's behaviour that other customers have objected to, not the behaviour of the couple.

Right, LOTM, given that you do not agree with homosexuality, and you would not accept it in your house, it is hardly surprising that you think it is ok for others to discriminate also.

To be clear, I FUNDAMENTALLY disagree with you. Also, the law makes it as clear as day that discrimination (on grounds of gender, race, disability or sexual orientation) will no longer be tolerated.

As a Dorset dweller with a quaint thatched pub in my village.. You can see some strange sights here too!

Not that I think 2 men kissing is strange.

Ooh noooooo I knew someone would pop up no matter where I chose!! :) You're lovely for not berating me!!

blimey is the that landlord of the pub stuck in a time warp

Yes Hazel. I don't have a problem with homosexuals. I'm not too sure what your point is?

The LL has to prove (disprove) he kicked them out for being homosexual. This will never happen.

The landlord has to show that he asked them to leave on reasonable, non-discriminatory grounds.
If he says nothing, then people will assume that he was being discriminatory and hasn't got a leg to stand on.
I like the non-violent and highly visible response, grassroots protest well done.

Pinot

He will say the behaviour was obscene or that other customers were complaining about it and unless a register was taken that'll be hard to disprove.

LOTM, you have said it yourself, here and on other threads. You may not "have a problem with homosexuals" but you do not agree with homosexual relationships.

I am surmising that - of course - you would not have a problem with a LL who feels the same. Despite what the law says. Clear enough?

Goblinchild, I too love the protest - non violent, gay/straight etc etc.

There have already been witnesses to say that they were not doing anything OTT, where are the voices saying they were sickened by the overt displays of affection that crossed the bounds of decency?
I suppose we'll have to see what the tabloids drag up.

LOTM, are you basing your understanding of legal proceedings on Judge Judy?

Well until the accused ADMIT to anything speculation isn't worth anything.

Hazel I'm not too sure why you are trying to paint me as a homophobic monster but I wish you would desist.